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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6795708" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>It seems I was not clear.</p><p></p><p>I absolutely DO think there's something wrong with a situation where a particular player is offering aid to allies, and that aid is consistently, without fail or deviation, ignored or even <em>scorned</em> by the recipients. That's called <em>the other players being a-holes.</em> I don't care what classes we're talking about here: any argument that is predicated on everyone else in the group treating someone to a constant cold shoulder is exactly what you're talking about: 'catering to outliers.'</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying you DID call people that. I'm saying <em>that's the position you're ascribing to other people.</em> You're saying that any proponent of the Warlord class is 100% behind a player who gets whiny and pissy the moment a single other person doesn't do EXACTLY what they said, how they said, with the resources they offered. In other, simpler terms, <em>this hypothetical Warlord</em> player is the one saying, "Everyone who plays must be a team player, or they're a horrible person."</p><p></p><p>Both of these are just as "catering to outliers" as what you are accusing me of doing. The first is catering to the outlier of "everyone in the group is okay with ignoring the contributions of a particular player, all the time, forever." The second is catering to the outlier of, "A player constantly harangues the others when they don't dance to <em>her</em> tune." Both of these things are completely ridiculous extremes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6795708, member: 6790260"] It seems I was not clear. I absolutely DO think there's something wrong with a situation where a particular player is offering aid to allies, and that aid is consistently, without fail or deviation, ignored or even [I]scorned[/I] by the recipients. That's called [I]the other players being a-holes.[/I] I don't care what classes we're talking about here: any argument that is predicated on everyone else in the group treating someone to a constant cold shoulder is exactly what you're talking about: 'catering to outliers.' I'm not saying you DID call people that. I'm saying [I]that's the position you're ascribing to other people.[/I] You're saying that any proponent of the Warlord class is 100% behind a player who gets whiny and pissy the moment a single other person doesn't do EXACTLY what they said, how they said, with the resources they offered. In other, simpler terms, [I]this hypothetical Warlord[/I] player is the one saying, "Everyone who plays must be a team player, or they're a horrible person." Both of these are just as "catering to outliers" as what you are accusing me of doing. The first is catering to the outlier of "everyone in the group is okay with ignoring the contributions of a particular player, all the time, forever." The second is catering to the outlier of, "A player constantly harangues the others when they don't dance to [I]her[/I] tune." Both of these things are completely ridiculous extremes. [/QUOTE]
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