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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2258846" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Well, you've been liberally abused by many posters here for the way you handled this ...</p><p></p><p>I guess it's time to heap some conservative abuse on the pile, as well! (OK, that was a really bad joke, even by my standards.)</p><p></p><p>I hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE DMs who do this.</p><p></p><p>Passionately.</p><p></p><p>"Yes, I know you're in a tense negotiation, where a wrong word could cause a fight you may not survive, but no one said they were doing anything other than staring at the goblin king."</p><p></p><p>... is very, very closely related to:</p><p></p><p>"Yes, I know you said you were checking the door for traps. But you didn't say you were checking the wall *around* the door for traps."</p><p></p><p>and:</p><p></p><p>"Yes, I know you said you were keeping watch. You never said you were checking the trees, however, so you automatically don't notice the giant spider sliding into the camp on its web. It grapples you!"</p><p></p><p>DMs who make up such stupid rulings should be prepared for players who start developing checklists.</p><p></p><p>PC: "Let's see, we're coming up on a door. Time to go through the standard door checklist:</p><p></p><p>If appropriate:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check the floor in the hallway leading up to the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check the handle of the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check the wall to each side of the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check the wall above the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check the hinges of the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Check any writing on the door.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Etc.</li> </ol><p>"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2258846, member: 23094"] Well, you've been liberally abused by many posters here for the way you handled this ... I guess it's time to heap some conservative abuse on the pile, as well! (OK, that was a really bad joke, even by my standards.) I hate, hate, hate, hate, HATE DMs who do this. Passionately. "Yes, I know you're in a tense negotiation, where a wrong word could cause a fight you may not survive, but no one said they were doing anything other than staring at the goblin king." ... is very, very closely related to: "Yes, I know you said you were checking the door for traps. But you didn't say you were checking the wall *around* the door for traps." and: "Yes, I know you said you were keeping watch. You never said you were checking the trees, however, so you automatically don't notice the giant spider sliding into the camp on its web. It grapples you!" DMs who make up such stupid rulings should be prepared for players who start developing checklists. PC: "Let's see, we're coming up on a door. Time to go through the standard door checklist: If appropriate: [list=1] [*]Check the floor in the hallway leading up to the door. [*]Check the handle of the door. [*]Check the wall to each side of the door. [*]Check the wall above the door. [*]Check the hinges of the door. [*]Check any writing on the door. [*]Etc.[/list]" [/QUOTE]
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