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<blockquote data-quote="Lejaun" data-source="post: 6827089" data-attributes="member: 6814580">My view on it is that if the group was leaving town and you mentioned that perhaps they should be more careful, as they sold magical gauntlets and a ring to the blacksmith, it should of been their fault and they should have no beef.This wasn't the case.&nbsp; The players, per the DM's own description, clearly had the intention of getting the items identified and thus were surpised when they went to do so and the DM told them that the items were no longer owned by them.&nbsp; Creating a system where they have very few ways to ID gear and can't even afford to find out the items are makes for problems, especially when it is unclear what is going on.&nbsp; At minimum, the black smith should have said something like &quot;I'm interested in buying it.&nbsp; It looks very beat up, but even so I'll buy it including the ring on the gauntlet and the bashed in helm.&quot; The DM should have allowed some sort of insight or perception roll as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lejaun, post: 6827089, member: 6814580"] My view on it is that if the group was leaving town and you mentioned that perhaps they should be more careful, as they sold magical gauntlets and a ring to the blacksmith, it should of been their fault and they should have no beef. This wasn't the case. The players, per the DM's own description, clearly had the intention of getting the items identified and thus were surpised when they went to do so and the DM told them that the items were no longer owned by them. Creating a system where they have very few ways to ID gear and can't even afford to find out the items are makes for problems, especially when it is unclear what is going on. At minimum, the black smith should have said something like "I'm interested in buying it. It looks very beat up, but even so I'll buy it including the ring on the gauntlet and the bashed in helm." The DM should have allowed some sort of insight or perception roll as well. [/QUOTE]

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