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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6827131" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!*shrug*I think the DM is in the right. Gauntlets (metal) are part of a 'suit of armor'. So, saying "I sell the armor" would naturally include the gauntlets...as it would a helmet. Seeing as the ring was specifically mentioned as being part of the gauntlets, and not easily removable, the PC would have understood that selling them would mean the ring goes with it. Adding all that together gives "I sell the armor" equivalence to "I sell the armor (including the helm, gauntlets, ring, greeves, and everything else that is a part of this suit of armor".As a DM if I feel the players are glossing over something that should probably at least make their characters pause...I will 'mention' it in passing. If they still keep with what they stated, so be it. My hands are clean.In the OP's situation, I would have likely said something like:"The blacksmith is eager to buy. He spaces out the stuff on the table, placing the helm to the left, then the core armor, then the miss-matched gauntlets. He looks at you and asks, 'Do we have a deal then?'".So, I would specifically mention the helm (not even mentioned in the original description of the armor), the core armor, the gauntlets. If the player agrees to the deal...so be it. He had his chance. His character was looking right there at everything separately. His character obviously didn't feel the gauntlets and ring were important enough to be separate. Player mistake...not the DM. But that's how I've learned to DM over the decades. Live and learn I guess. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Now, for the OP's problem... he should use this as an opportunity to lay down a house rule or "ground work" for future situations. He should go back and say "OK, the gauntlets with the embedded ring wasn't part of the deal. I can see your point. However, from now on, if you guys don't specifically say something about something unusual, I will assume you are treating that 'unusual thing' as inconsequential. So if you find a 'long sword that has a scabbard that is made from solid brass and red-leather', and you decide to sell that sword...the scabbard is going with it unless you make mention of it". This way, future "player distractions at the table" are on them.^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

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