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<blockquote data-quote="Charles Rampant" data-source="post: 6827581" data-attributes="member: 32659">I would say that this kind of action - as described in the first post, not having read the entire thread past page 12 or so - is perhaps not something that is technically wrong, but it is definitely one that seems designed to annoy players, rather than give them more fun. More fun does not equate simply to more stuff, and I don't mean that by taking the treasure away the DM was wrong in general, but I mean that the way this went down seems to be designed to annoy, not entertain. I can easily imagine ways that the DM could have the players lose treasure without it being a dick move and with it adding entertainment and interest to the campaign; to not fully describe the scene, and to use this kind of a &quot;Gotcha!&quot; moment is not one of them. This seems simply a punitive removal of stuff from the group in an underhanded way. The shorter way to put it is: I would not have done this, were I the DM. Ignoring the group's reaction, ignoring the phone user's attention span, this is not something that I would regard as being fun for either me or my players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charles Rampant, post: 6827581, member: 32659"] I would say that this kind of action - as described in the first post, not having read the entire thread past page 12 or so - is perhaps not something that is [i]technically[/i] wrong, but it is definitely one that seems designed to annoy players, rather than give them more fun. More fun does not equate simply to more stuff, and I don't mean that by taking the treasure away the DM was wrong in general, but I mean that the way this went down seems to be designed to annoy, not entertain. I can easily imagine ways that the DM could have the players lose treasure without it being a dick move and with it adding entertainment and interest to the campaign; to not fully describe the scene, and to use this kind of a "Gotcha!" moment is not one of them. This seems simply a punitive removal of stuff from the group in an underhanded way. The shorter way to put it is: I would not have done this, were I the DM. Ignoring the group's reaction, ignoring the phone user's attention span, this is not something that I would regard as being fun for either me or my players. [/QUOTE]

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