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<blockquote data-quote="Neurotic" data-source="post: 6837875" data-attributes="member: 24380">[MENTION=6806492]randrak[/MENTION] I would say allow them to retrieve the item(s) from the blacksmith, have him raise the guards and chase them out of town (or let them fight legitimate authority). This was player error, translated into character error. Both due to bad bookkeeping (always bad idea), non-involvement (phone) and you (by not handling this behaviour before). Punish any lawful player by turning him neutral if the go through with this. Punish any and all player by moving them one step toward evil if they kill anyone innocent (including guards).IMPORTANT: warn them in advance that what they are doing is illegal and may have consequences - don't list them, just warn them fairly.I don't think you did anything wrong, you described the items, told them the ring is stuck (I suppose you did) - and here I disagree with those who say you changed the rules, if you did, you did it for story reasons which is valid - it was their lack of attention that cost them the items.Finally, talk to phone player to leave off the phone or kick him out completely. I wouldn't mind if he was paying half attention to RP parts esp if he's not social as character - but in combat he slows everyone down by not participating and combats take the longest due to many people doing turns.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neurotic, post: 6837875, member: 24380"] [MENTION=6806492]randrak[/MENTION] I would say allow them to retrieve the item(s) from the blacksmith, have him raise the guards and chase them out of town (or let them fight legitimate authority). This was player error, translated into character error. Both due to bad bookkeeping (always bad idea), non-involvement (phone) and you (by not handling this behaviour before). Punish any lawful player by turning him neutral if the go through with this. Punish any and all player by moving them one step toward evil if they kill anyone innocent (including guards). IMPORTANT: warn them in advance that what they are doing is illegal and may have consequences - don't list them, just warn them fairly. I don't think you did anything wrong, you described the items, told them the ring is stuck (I suppose you did) - and here I disagree with those who say you changed the rules, if you did, you did it for story reasons which is valid - it was their lack of attention that cost them the items. Finally, talk to phone player to leave off the phone or kick him out completely. I wouldn't mind if he was paying half attention to RP parts esp if he's not social as character - but in combat he slows everyone down by not participating and combats take the longest due to many people doing turns. [/QUOTE]

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