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<blockquote data-quote="Neurotic" data-source="post: 6838215" data-attributes="member: 24380">I know the guys are two separate people. But the one who sold it wasn't paying attention, phone guy definitely wasn't and he was complaining the most. Punish them. Drifting occasionally is OK, it happens. Being on the phone...your thing. But slowing down everyone else affects not just you and your character and shows severe disrespect for other peoples time - not so minor anymore and not &quot;your&quot; thing anymore.As for drastic punishments...yes, alignment is a trend. But we're not talking about occasional &quot;tricky&quot; situation in which there is a trend. Or maybe breaking some unfair laws or laws of a cruel baron. We're talking about peaceful town in which lawful PC actively endorses, plans and even executes a robbery. Same for fighting the guards: they are lawful representatives of the city. Killing them is probably capital offense in any case. Doing it while doing crime...which you weren't forced into...yes, I would punish them severely. Maybe not with alignment change, although I would definitely drop hints at the very first opportunity (clerics, paladins, random encounter angels mentioning not-so-shiny spot on their alignment). But definitely would run them out of town, revoke their adventurers license (assuming there is one) and spread the word of the group so they would pay more in some shops, get shunted in barns instead of inn rooms, have traders in arms when they approach etc.You know, shady people of ill repute in local area.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neurotic, post: 6838215, member: 24380"] I know the guys are two separate people. But the one who sold it wasn't paying attention, phone guy definitely wasn't and he was complaining the most. Punish them. Drifting occasionally is OK, it happens. Being on the phone...your thing. But slowing down everyone else affects not just you and your character and shows severe disrespect for other peoples time - not so minor anymore and not "your" thing anymore. As for drastic punishments...yes, alignment is a trend. But we're not talking about occasional "tricky" situation in which there is a trend. Or maybe breaking some unfair laws or laws of a cruel baron. We're talking about peaceful town in which lawful PC actively endorses, plans and even executes a robbery. Same for fighting the guards: they are lawful representatives of the city. Killing them is probably capital offense in any case. Doing it while doing crime...which you weren't forced into...yes, I would punish them severely. Maybe not with alignment change, although I would definitely drop hints at the very first opportunity (clerics, paladins, random encounter angels mentioning not-so-shiny spot on their alignment). But definitely would run them out of town, revoke their adventurers license (assuming there is one) and spread the word of the group so they would pay more in some shops, get shunted in barns instead of inn rooms, have traders in arms when they approach etc. You know, shady people of ill repute in local area. [/QUOTE]

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