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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6850547" data-attributes="member: 42582">If the scene took an hour to play out, and still the player got hosed, that makes it even worse in my book!A player who spends an hour playing out the selling of some armour to a NPC purchaser is not someone who is unengaged with the game. And furthermore is deeply engaged with what I would regard as the minutiae of the game. I can't see how anyone could reasonably say that such a player is being "absent-minded" or "careless" and so warrants being tricked out of a magic item by the GM's clever wording.</blockquote>