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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6853368" data-attributes="member: 6778044">The only person that can answer the question is the DM. And the DM would have played the NPC with the expertise he had in mind. For our discussion it might or might not be important. But the DM may not have even thought of it. He may just view any blacksmith as being able to easily appraise and give a price to a suit of armor. Also, particularly in the way the rules are written, there isn't any differentiation between an average smith, or highly skilled smith. Nor is there any consideration to how well they can appraise a given item. It's just generally assumed that the NPC in question knows the price of any item he's shown. Not all tables play this way, but that's more or less the &quot;default&quot; based on the rules.This actually applies in general to the discussion beyond what was specifically said. I don't see the smith as having to need to do anything more than look at the bundle, while others think he needed to look at it in much more detail. The DM may not have thought of either situation. That is, he may not have considered the actual action that the smith was doing, beyond a general &quot;he studies the armor&quot; which would also mean he may not have considered potential ramifications (can the ranger see the ring? Is it hidden? etc.).Ilbranteloth</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 6853368, member: 6778044"] The only person that can answer the question is the DM. And the DM would have played the NPC with the expertise he had in mind. For our discussion it might or might not be important. But the DM may not have even thought of it. He may just view [I]any[/I] blacksmith as being able to easily appraise and give a price to a suit of armor. Also, particularly in the way the rules are written, there isn't any differentiation between an average smith, or highly skilled smith. Nor is there any consideration to how well they can appraise a given item. It's just generally assumed that the NPC in question knows the price of any item he's shown. Not all tables play this way, but that's more or less the "default" based on the rules. This actually applies in general to the discussion beyond what was specifically said. I don't see the smith as having to need to do anything more than look at the bundle, while others think he needed to look at it in much more detail. The DM may not have thought of either situation. That is, he may not have considered the actual action that the smith was doing, beyond a general "he studies the armor" which would also mean he may not have considered potential ramifications (can the ranger see the ring? Is it hidden? etc.). Ilbranteloth [/QUOTE]

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