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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4719250" data-attributes="member: 2067">&quot;Always&quot; means &quot;Well, not ALWAYS,&quot; as Jeff pointed out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Plus, at least IMC, alignment is about what you do, not what you do it to. Murder for the sake of schadenfreude doesn't help you. If you torture Hitler, that's as evil as if you torture Mother Teresa. What's evil is the torture.And the &quot;end justifies the means&quot; argument doesn't work well from my perspective either. I mean, that's kind of the argument for killing civilians in peacetime: if a few innocents get hurt, that is an acceptable price to pay for the continuation of our (good) plans and the death of some (evil) people. But heck, in games where black dragons truly represent cosmic &quot;i'm made of it!&quot; evil universally? Nah, even there, I'd say that turning someone into an undead bound to your will in order to make them watch while you murdered their family is Evil, Evil, Evil.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4719250, member: 2067"] "Always" means "Well, not ALWAYS," as Jeff pointed out. :) Plus, at least IMC, alignment is about what you do, not what you do it to. Murder for the sake of schadenfreude doesn't help you. If you torture Hitler, that's as evil as if you torture Mother Teresa. What's evil is the torture. And the "end justifies the means" argument doesn't work well from my perspective either. I mean, that's kind of the argument for killing civilians in peacetime: if a few innocents get hurt, that is an acceptable price to pay for the continuation of our (good) plans and the death of some (evil) people. But heck, in games where black dragons truly represent cosmic "i'm made of it!" evil universally? Nah, even there, I'd say that turning someone into an undead bound to your will in order to make them watch while you murdered their family is Evil, Evil, Evil. [/QUOTE]

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