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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aberzanzorax" data-source="post: 4719676" data-attributes="member: 64209">I have to agree that he has done some evil, but disagree with some of your statments. First, the biggest disagreement is that the epic spell is evil. I think we can all admit create greater undead is evil (what with the evil descriptor and all). Why is the epic spell evil? Not because it can kill innocents, that is up to the caster to be cautious of (just like fireball can kill innocents). Not because it is a death effect, the spells I listed prior to your post are all death effects and not evil. So why is the spell itself evil? Other than animating the dead, he did two evil things: 1. He was uncautious about innocents (like if some half/quarter/one-onehundreth dragons who were innocent or good got killed). 2. He had evil intent to mentally torture the dragon. Torture is always evil. Like I said in my prior post, it's not the spell that was evil, it was the use of it. Just like a hammer and insecticide aren't evil. If I used them on a captive to break his fingers or spray up his nose, THAT would be evil.  EDIT: One other thought, though. Either the dragon HAD to be undead to cast the spell (that WOULD make the epic spell evil because it required an evil spell component-the undead) or it did not (that would mean he raised it just to be a jerk). Either way...evil.</blockquote>