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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4720524" data-attributes="member: 40961">Do you feel that his action was evil because of its motivation, or do you feel that it would have been evil even if his motivation was otherwise?&nbsp;Lets say that 500 of the black dragons killed were definitely evil and absolutely going to come after V and his family.&nbsp; 500 weren't, and probably weren't even bad people.&nbsp; What then?&nbsp; Is there a numeric tipping point?&nbsp;Does the morality of the situation change because V killed &quot;all&quot; of the dragon's family members, thus creating a sort of &quot;genocide?&quot;&nbsp; Would things be morally different if the dragon had three times this many family members, and V only killed a random selection of them calculated to include as many of the most evil ones as possible?&nbsp; Does the &quot;100% of the dragon's family&quot; aspect make it more evil than if he killed an equal number but they weren't 100% of a family group?&nbsp;What if V were at war with the Nation of Black Dragonia, which consisted of many evil dragon soldiers who were out to get V and his family, but also many non evil dragon civilians who supported the soldiers because that's what civilians do in a country, but who did not directly contribute to the conflict?&nbsp; If V's actions were the most efficient way of ending the battle with minimal casualties on his side, would it have been morally acceptable?&nbsp;Do the answers to any of these questions say anything about real world morality?&nbsp; Shouldn't real world moral law be even more strict, since no one is born with &quot;always evil&quot; written on the forehead like the Mark of Cain?&nbsp; Does real world morality, particular on a national level, even come close to the standards expressed in this thread?&nbsp; Does it even aspire to be close?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4720524, member: 40961"] Do you feel that his action was evil because of its motivation, or do you feel that it would have been evil even if his motivation was otherwise? Lets say that 500 of the black dragons killed were definitely evil and absolutely going to come after V and his family. 500 weren't, and probably weren't even bad people. What then? Is there a numeric tipping point? Does the morality of the situation change because V killed "all" of the dragon's family members, thus creating a sort of "genocide?" Would things be morally different if the dragon had three times this many family members, and V only killed a random selection of them calculated to include as many of the most evil ones as possible? Does the "100% of the dragon's family" aspect make it more evil than if he killed an equal number but they weren't 100% of a family group? What if V were at war with the Nation of Black Dragonia, which consisted of many evil dragon soldiers who were out to get V and his family, but also many non evil dragon civilians who supported the soldiers because that's what civilians do in a country, but who did not directly contribute to the conflict? If V's actions were the most efficient way of ending the battle with minimal casualties on his side, would it have been morally acceptable? Do the answers to any of these questions say anything about real world morality? Shouldn't real world moral law be even more strict, since no one is born with "always evil" written on the forehead like the Mark of Cain? Does real world morality, particular on a national level, even come close to the standards expressed in this thread? Does it even [I]aspire[/I] to be close? [/QUOTE]

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