Waterdeep - I've got it
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Baragos said:
I'm not impressed with charging the same price, and giving 30 some fewer pages. But I wouldn't say I'd agree that quality has gone down. I've got Heroes of Battle, like the book, and haven't had any troubles with the binding. I liked Serpent Kingdoms. Didn't like Champions of Ruin, but I did like the Shining South and Lost Empires of Faerun and the book the eastern empires.
Last I heard, printing prices did not go up by 15-20% in the last year.
Banshee
Kae'Yoss
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Banshee16 said:
Me, too. Until Champions of Ruin, I really liked every FR book they made for 3e (The FRCS, of course, is a real beauty, and Lost Empires is pretty damn good, too). I figured that Champions of Ruin was a single bad egg in the basket, but you cannot help but fear secretly that quality has dropped overall. Luckily it seems that the fear proved unnecessary.
JoeGKushner
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Kae'Yoss said:
I must be weird. I disliked Heroes of Battle and enjoyed Champions of Ruin.
Didn't like the price increase mind you but...
It looks like a number of upcoming WotC releases will be 160 pages in length, rather than the 192 pages on average in previous products. For example, the next two Eberron books (Five Nations and Explorer's Guide) will both be 160 pages. It seems like this trend is here to stay...
Kae'Yoss
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JoeGKushner said:
Then you are weird!
I didn't get HoB, but I got CoR (since I get all the FR books). I thought that it lacked real evil. The crunch wasn't that good. What evil feats were there? A feat that's called dirty rat, another that makes you a coward - but with better sneak attack damage (which did not make any sense to me), and some feats for extra damage with iterative attacks. And, of course the demonthrall-like feats, which weren't really that innovative. Compare that to BoVD feats like Lich-Loved or Willing Deformity.
Most of the PrC's didn't strike me as the poster children of Evil in the Realms, either.
The NPC's had several real weird errors in them, and the Elder Evils were a real joke.
And the "advice" was nothing new really.
What did you like about the book?
Well, I'd like to see someone who does like things like that - beside the guys getting the money, and I know from experience that this is not just happy times all around, either.
Antara said:
I'm all for a couple of PrC's for a book like that. You can create tailor-made PrC's for the organizations in the City of Splendours, after all. The other stuff is more or less inevitable, but why cleric domains? There aren't really new gods that are a Waterdhavian specialty, and I doubt that there will be divine aspects there that aren't found anywhere else.
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