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<blockquote data-quote="jontherev" data-source="post: 264007" data-attributes="member: 1451"><p>I think the real issue here is that a new book came out with new rules. In our campaign, our DM allowed us to alter/tweak our characters when the splatbooks came out. I see this as the same type of thing. Allowing someone to change their character a little shouldn't effect the game much, and will make for a happier player in many instances. This is different than asking for more BAB at 21st level. He's actually asking to go back in time and re-plan his pc. I know that's odd and totally done out of game, but this is a special circumstance. It does not tear apart the fabric of reality to allow your players to alter their pc's under conditions like this. I'm not talking about a total change, but rather a few changes based upon any new rules that were added. Once all the books are out, this is not necessary.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes, it is to the detriment of one's pc. Take all of us poor, poor rogues <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> who took Expert Tactician at like 3rd level when Sword and Fist came out. Just as Song and Silence came out, I was ecstatic because I had just turned 9th level. As I salivated over the different feats available, I was shattered when I noticed that my feat had already been chosen for me...Combat Reflexes, which was the newly added prerequisite for ET. I never would have taken that feat otherwise, but I have since left that disappointment behind me. Over 3 levels, I have yet to use this feat. Unless I change my concept (specializes in daggers) and start using a kusari-gama (he's a halfling), I don't plan on getting much use out of the feat EVER. BUT, it's worth it for ET.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>So, whether it is for the good or bad of the pc, I think it's perfectly ok to allow a player to make a change or two when new books come out. This entire thread would not have happened if the ELH was out a year ago. YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jontherev, post: 264007, member: 1451"] I think the real issue here is that a new book came out with new rules. In our campaign, our DM allowed us to alter/tweak our characters when the splatbooks came out. I see this as the same type of thing. Allowing someone to change their character a little shouldn't effect the game much, and will make for a happier player in many instances. This is different than asking for more BAB at 21st level. He's actually asking to go back in time and re-plan his pc. I know that's odd and totally done out of game, but this is a special circumstance. It does not tear apart the fabric of reality to allow your players to alter their pc's under conditions like this. I'm not talking about a total change, but rather a few changes based upon any new rules that were added. Once all the books are out, this is not necessary. Sometimes, it is to the detriment of one's pc. Take all of us poor, poor rogues :D who took Expert Tactician at like 3rd level when Sword and Fist came out. Just as Song and Silence came out, I was ecstatic because I had just turned 9th level. As I salivated over the different feats available, I was shattered when I noticed that my feat had already been chosen for me...Combat Reflexes, which was the newly added prerequisite for ET. I never would have taken that feat otherwise, but I have since left that disappointment behind me. Over 3 levels, I have yet to use this feat. Unless I change my concept (specializes in daggers) and start using a kusari-gama (he's a halfling), I don't plan on getting much use out of the feat EVER. BUT, it's worth it for ET.:D So, whether it is for the good or bad of the pc, I think it's perfectly ok to allow a player to make a change or two when new books come out. This entire thread would not have happened if the ELH was out a year ago. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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