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<blockquote data-quote="rushlight" data-source="post: 268707" data-attributes="member: 3801">&quot;By the rules, a Wish cannot give a point of BAB. You can change that in your game if you want, but realize it is a house rule.&quot;That is what I don't understand.&nbsp; The Wish spell SAYS that you can Wish for greater effects, and that it just might be dangerous.&nbsp; It's up to the GM in question to decide what will be dangerous, what won't, and what exactly a Wish can do.&nbsp; It's not a house rule, it's a game rule.To be perfectly honest it really doesn't matter to me if you get this point, so I agree this thread is becoming pointless.&nbsp; Some of you fail to understand exactly what Wish can do, but there's really not much more I can do about that except tell you to reread the spell.&nbsp; Sure, different GMs will allow it to do different things.&nbsp; But no matter what happens it's still within the bounds of Wish.&nbsp; Again, I could Wish that the entire universe was swamped in whip cream, and if the GM thought that might be funny or possible it would happen.&nbsp; That's not a house rule, that's a game rule.&nbsp; Wish can do &quot;greater effects than these&quot; and &quot;it MIGHT be dangerous&quot;.&nbsp; Well, swamping the universe in whip cream qualifies as a &quot;greater effect&quot; and it obviously was dangerous, since we'd all drown.&nbsp; Perfectly legal.&nbsp; As for causing the character to lose levels, that's perfectly legal too.&nbsp; After all, the +1 BAB is a &quot;greater effect&quot; and it can be &quot;dangerous&quot;.&nbsp; If that's the way you wanna handle that, then go for it.&nbsp; As for +1 BAB being unbalanced, would you mind explaining how gaining an attack that will miss 95% (or more) of the time when fighting balanced CR monsters is unbalanced?&nbsp; Apparently I missed that point.&nbsp; Maybe you roll more natural 20s that usual or something...&nbsp; Oh, and I'll quote how I like.&nbsp; If you are down to attacking my posting style (or perhaps you'll start with grammer and spelling next) then I suppose we should just end this.&nbsp; If you've got no more specific points related to the conversation, just say so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rushlight, post: 268707, member: 3801"] "By the rules, a Wish cannot give a point of BAB. You can change that in your game if you want, but realize it is a house rule." That is what I don't understand. The Wish spell SAYS that you can Wish for greater effects, and that it just might be dangerous. It's up to the GM in question to decide what will be dangerous, what won't, and what exactly a Wish can do. It's not a house rule, it's a game rule. To be perfectly honest it really doesn't matter to me if you get this point, so I agree this thread is becoming pointless. Some of you fail to understand exactly what Wish can do, but there's really not much more I can do about that except tell you to reread the spell. Sure, different GMs will allow it to do different things. But no matter what happens it's still within the bounds of Wish. Again, I could Wish that the entire universe was swamped in whip cream, and if the GM thought that might be funny or possible it would happen. That's not a house rule, that's a game rule. Wish can do "greater effects than these" and "it MIGHT be dangerous". Well, swamping the universe in whip cream qualifies as a "greater effect" and it obviously was dangerous, since we'd all drown. Perfectly legal. As for causing the character to lose levels, that's perfectly legal too. After all, the +1 BAB is a "greater effect" and it can be "dangerous". If that's the way you wanna handle that, then go for it. As for +1 BAB being unbalanced, would you mind explaining how gaining an attack that will miss 95% (or more) of the time when fighting balanced CR monsters is unbalanced? Apparently I missed that point. Maybe you roll more natural 20s that usual or something... Oh, and I'll quote how I like. If you are down to attacking my posting style (or perhaps you'll start with grammer and spelling next) then I suppose we should just end this. If you've got no more specific points related to the conversation, just say so. [/QUOTE]

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