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<blockquote data-quote="Gromm" data-source="post: 269793" data-attributes="member: 2245"><p>Aint that the F-ing truth. I often wonder why some people (not neccessarily this thread), ask questions of rules. Once they hear the answer they raise a stink and say its not fair and yadda-yadda- yadda and then Rule 0 it. So why even ask in the first place if you had your heart set on chaging the rules to what you wanted them to be? The point of this forum is to ask how the rules work, not to bitch and moan when the rules don't work the way you want them too.</p><p></p><p>As far as the whole insult issue, I've been reading. Its Kreynolds.... I mean comon. If you take him personally you'll probably end up jumping off the Brooklyn bridge or something. Its just the way he is, don't take it to heart just get used to it (I don't know how many times hes insulted me now). </p><p></p><p>The simplest solution is to allow the Wish to drop him a level in one of his existing classes (seems well within the power of wish to use it to screw yourself over). If he wants the fricken BAB THAT badly, then by all means shoot yourself in the foot for the thing. If not then tuff tittie and move on with your life, if you really wanted to be super archer you'd make a pure fighter. Multiclassing is great and all, but to be the best swordsman, archer, axe thrower, or whatever you go with fighter. Kinda like if you want to be a master spell caster you go straight Sor or Wiz, just the way it works. Arcane archers are neat and all, but near as I can figure it should have been pretty easy to get enough BAB for that extra attack if you wanted it that badly.</p><p></p><p>Oh and for those who haven't figured it out... Wish DOES have a limit on its power. You can't wish yourself to become say a god, no matter how "well worded" it is. This came up before in some other issue a while back where someone tried to be smart and wish for something beyond Wish's power. Its a 9th level spell, but you can't use it to say cast Energy Drain. Why? Because it can't replicate 9th level spells. I don't care if it costs XP or not, it can't do it. Says so right in the book. You can wish to do all kinds of things outside of the range of wish, if you word it poorly you'll probably die. If you word it perfectly, nothing will happen. </p><p></p><p>Lets look at the possible wording of this wish anyway:</p><p>"I wish I had another point of BAB" ummm no.</p><p>"I wish I had taken a fighter level instead of a mage level" Nope.</p><p>"I wish I had spent more time training in martial combat instead of wizardly arts." Hey good idea, but unfortunately wish can't alter time last I looked so its beyond the ability of Wish- granted it could probably make you lose a wizard level but even wording that would be pretty rough.</p><p></p><p>So just kill him and help the guy out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gromm, post: 269793, member: 2245"] Aint that the F-ing truth. I often wonder why some people (not neccessarily this thread), ask questions of rules. Once they hear the answer they raise a stink and say its not fair and yadda-yadda- yadda and then Rule 0 it. So why even ask in the first place if you had your heart set on chaging the rules to what you wanted them to be? The point of this forum is to ask how the rules work, not to bitch and moan when the rules don't work the way you want them too. As far as the whole insult issue, I've been reading. Its Kreynolds.... I mean comon. If you take him personally you'll probably end up jumping off the Brooklyn bridge or something. Its just the way he is, don't take it to heart just get used to it (I don't know how many times hes insulted me now). The simplest solution is to allow the Wish to drop him a level in one of his existing classes (seems well within the power of wish to use it to screw yourself over). If he wants the fricken BAB THAT badly, then by all means shoot yourself in the foot for the thing. If not then tuff tittie and move on with your life, if you really wanted to be super archer you'd make a pure fighter. Multiclassing is great and all, but to be the best swordsman, archer, axe thrower, or whatever you go with fighter. Kinda like if you want to be a master spell caster you go straight Sor or Wiz, just the way it works. Arcane archers are neat and all, but near as I can figure it should have been pretty easy to get enough BAB for that extra attack if you wanted it that badly. Oh and for those who haven't figured it out... Wish DOES have a limit on its power. You can't wish yourself to become say a god, no matter how "well worded" it is. This came up before in some other issue a while back where someone tried to be smart and wish for something beyond Wish's power. Its a 9th level spell, but you can't use it to say cast Energy Drain. Why? Because it can't replicate 9th level spells. I don't care if it costs XP or not, it can't do it. Says so right in the book. You can wish to do all kinds of things outside of the range of wish, if you word it poorly you'll probably die. If you word it perfectly, nothing will happen. Lets look at the possible wording of this wish anyway: "I wish I had another point of BAB" ummm no. "I wish I had taken a fighter level instead of a mage level" Nope. "I wish I had spent more time training in martial combat instead of wizardly arts." Hey good idea, but unfortunately wish can't alter time last I looked so its beyond the ability of Wish- granted it could probably make you lose a wizard level but even wording that would be pretty rough. So just kill him and help the guy out. [/QUOTE]
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