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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 4870086" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Maybe it's from western fiction. There are <strong>lots</strong> of Sword and Sorcery books out there (the genre, not the publisher). I read a lot of fantasy books, and wimps-to-wizards stories are <em>rare</em>.</p><p></p><p>Then again, I never see wizards done properly in novels, although properly is an adjective that varies from person to person. Usually they're either really powerful, really weak (most), or are really powerful but have some limitation that renders them weak (most series, including many based on DnD!). </p><p></p><p>In the first book of the Kingless Land (a series by Ed Greenwood; when he's not writing Mary Sues he's a good author!), the sorceress was powerful, but had been tapped out and never got to recharge. (The druid character had some similar excuse, which would wreck the plot if I said it here.)</p><p></p><p>In DnD novels, especially newer books, most spellcasters are either a weaker spellcasting class (Lei the artificer, for instance), multi-classed (so low level) or just start out low level. If said character becomes high level (eg Sadira from the Prism Pentad, or any of the Chosen) they tend to become ridiculously powerful. Sadira is an interesting example; she started off having the approximate power level of a 9th-level mage or so (which is a bit suspiciously high) which led to some exciting and interesting uses of magic (and, on a few occasions, using <em>non-magical skills</em> instead) before she got her hands on an overpowered magic staff and then got a Chosen of Mystra-style upgrade. (She was powerful enough to take on sorcerer kings single-handedly, at least in the magic department, as she wasn't psychic. In the books, psionic combat was so nerfed too.)</p><p></p><p>And there are plenty of series (Drizzt!) where none of the main characters have any magical powers. (No, Harkell isn't a main character.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 4870086, member: 1165"] Maybe it's from western fiction. There are [b]lots[/b] of Sword and Sorcery books out there (the genre, not the publisher). I read a lot of fantasy books, and wimps-to-wizards stories are [i]rare[/i]. Then again, I never see wizards done properly in novels, although properly is an adjective that varies from person to person. Usually they're either really powerful, really weak (most), or are really powerful but have some limitation that renders them weak (most series, including many based on DnD!). In the first book of the Kingless Land (a series by Ed Greenwood; when he's not writing Mary Sues he's a good author!), the sorceress was powerful, but had been tapped out and never got to recharge. (The druid character had some similar excuse, which would wreck the plot if I said it here.) In DnD novels, especially newer books, most spellcasters are either a weaker spellcasting class (Lei the artificer, for instance), multi-classed (so low level) or just start out low level. If said character becomes high level (eg Sadira from the Prism Pentad, or any of the Chosen) they tend to become ridiculously powerful. Sadira is an interesting example; she started off having the approximate power level of a 9th-level mage or so (which is a bit suspiciously high) which led to some exciting and interesting uses of magic (and, on a few occasions, using [i]non-magical skills[/i] instead) before she got her hands on an overpowered magic staff and then got a Chosen of Mystra-style upgrade. (She was powerful enough to take on sorcerer kings single-handedly, at least in the magic department, as she wasn't psychic. In the books, psionic combat was so nerfed too.) And there are plenty of series (Drizzt!) where none of the main characters have any magical powers. (No, Harkell isn't a main character.) [/QUOTE]
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