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<blockquote data-quote="Maltese Changeling" data-source="post: 4870264" data-attributes="member: 69897"><p>Let's look at a few of these "zero to hero" candidates:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Dragonslayer</em>, <em>Willow</em>, <em>Eragon</em>, the Harry Potter series, and the TV <i>Merlin</i> all postdate D&D by some time (decades in some cases), so let's rule those out of bounds for now.</p><p></p><p>That leaves us with Luke Skywalker and Paul Atreides.</p><p></p><p>Luke is 1977, so he postdates the earliest D&D books, but he predates AD&D, so we'll keep him around for a bit. What can Luke do (when he's not surprised by a Sand Person)? Head on down to Beggar's Canyon and bullseye womp rats while flying his T-16--and, as we all know, those womp rats aren't much bigger than 2 meters! He can also shoot lots and lots of stormtroopers, swing across nigh bottomless access shafts whilst holding on to a princess, and, oh, blow up the Death Star--all on his first adventure after leaving the farm. He does go on in the next 2 movies to multi-class to Jedi and start getting big power-ups, but I'd say that he starts off as a pretty potent hero nonetheless.</p><p></p><p>Paul Atreides predates D&D, so he's kosher. What can he do? Well, in addition to being a genetic messiah (someone cheated on those 3d6 rolls), Paul has had Bene Gesserit training while still a teenager, giving him all those funky psychic control powers. Oh, and he's been trained in combat and tactics by three of the baddest mofos in the Padishah Imperium. Again, all of this before Paul ever earns a single XP.</p><p></p><p>I think we need some new candidates.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maltese Changeling, post: 4870264, member: 69897"] Let's look at a few of these "zero to hero" candidates: [i]Dragonslayer[/i], [i]Willow[/i], [i]Eragon[/i], the Harry Potter series, and the TV <i>Merlin</i> all postdate D&D by some time (decades in some cases), so let's rule those out of bounds for now. That leaves us with Luke Skywalker and Paul Atreides. Luke is 1977, so he postdates the earliest D&D books, but he predates AD&D, so we'll keep him around for a bit. What can Luke do (when he's not surprised by a Sand Person)? Head on down to Beggar's Canyon and bullseye womp rats while flying his T-16--and, as we all know, those womp rats aren't much bigger than 2 meters! He can also shoot lots and lots of stormtroopers, swing across nigh bottomless access shafts whilst holding on to a princess, and, oh, blow up the Death Star--all on his first adventure after leaving the farm. He does go on in the next 2 movies to multi-class to Jedi and start getting big power-ups, but I'd say that he starts off as a pretty potent hero nonetheless. Paul Atreides predates D&D, so he's kosher. What can he do? Well, in addition to being a genetic messiah (someone cheated on those 3d6 rolls), Paul has had Bene Gesserit training while still a teenager, giving him all those funky psychic control powers. Oh, and he's been trained in combat and tactics by three of the baddest mofos in the Padishah Imperium. Again, all of this before Paul ever earns a single XP. I think we need some new candidates. [/QUOTE]
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