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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 2592497" data-attributes="member: 35909">As far as the complaints about how taking all these feats and such can make Str worthless (which, as long as light and maximum loads are enforced, it NEVER will be <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ):If you wanted to make dex worthless, WotC has amply provided the powergamer.&nbsp; Just take improved initiative, Insightful Reflexes (CV, Int mod to ref saves instead of dex), zen archery, brutal throw (str used for thrown weap attack rolls instead of dex) and put on the heaviest armor you can find.&nbsp; Granted, that's a lot of feats that cover 3 different ability scores, but a) a fighter could still easily afford them and b) no one should ever need all of those.&nbsp; With II, IR, and BT alone you'd be able to play a burly fighter hurling weapons without need of a good dex score.&nbsp; Sure, you'd need a higher int, but that gets you skill points anyway.&nbsp; Plus, take 3 levels of swashbuckler and you're doing str + int damage!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 2592497, member: 35909"] As far as the complaints about how taking all these feats and such can make Str worthless (which, as long as light and maximum loads are enforced, it NEVER will be :) ): If you wanted to make dex worthless, WotC has amply provided the powergamer. Just take improved initiative, Insightful Reflexes (CV, Int mod to ref saves instead of dex), zen archery, brutal throw (str used for thrown weap attack rolls instead of dex) and put on the heaviest armor you can find. Granted, that's a lot of feats that cover 3 different ability scores, but a) a fighter could still easily afford them and b) no one should ever need all of those. With II, IR, and BT alone you'd be able to play a burly fighter hurling weapons without need of a good dex score. Sure, you'd need a higher int, but that gets you skill points anyway. Plus, take 3 levels of swashbuckler and you're doing str + int damage! [/QUOTE]

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