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Message: <blockquote data-quote="unan oranis" data-source="post: 4275621" data-attributes="member: 65462">Sorry pal, but you are probably just burnt out in general.Not only is 4e self evidently a winner, but many of your points go beyond a stale, contridictary opinion and are just patently wrong.Pick a side man.  At the end of your post you complain that there isn't enough rules support for role playing.  So are the tiny racial bonuses restricting you to certain classes, or would any amount of role playing support be wasted on you?The quality of fluff from edition to edition varies by opinion, but to claim any of them have been especially mind blowing is stretching things.Snarkiness aside, the magic was never in the books.  It was in you, the whole time.  Magic gone?  It was never in the books so that means...  yes, i'm afraid your fu has become weak.Again, the self contradictions...  You complain that they have filled the book up with too many powers at the expense of fluff, but that the whole things a set up because you don't have enough powers to play?The organisation is terrible and cluttered, but the layout is handled quite well?The book doesn't inspire ideas, but your mind is screaming for more at-wills? So people who don't play with minis are silly, but you are upset that you are expected to play with minis?People are expected to play, but not even neccesarily, with at least a dungeon master tracking things on a piece of graph paper, which is actually suggested in the new dmg.I WISH THERE WERE ***MORE*** WAYS TO SPEND MONEY ON MY FAVORITE HOBBY.It is extremely rare to find a situation that yields true, real happiness in exchange for mere mortal coin.Ok, you might not like what you see, and I might not see what any of your points are, but one thing I do know is that you ARE downplaying their hard work with this statement that follows... I don't mean to be rude, in fact, I'd like to thank you for posting here.But how hard is it to not ***** on a messageboard?EDIT:  jokes aren't so funny when they are spelled out, but for the record i'm mimicing the way you couched the put down on the design team to illustrate a point; as I state below I wouldn't reply to your critique if I wasn't taking you seriously.  No offence intended.Errated?  The MM entry for the warforged was expanded brilliantly, if there is a corresponding errata to the MM entry hats off to WOTC.  Oh right, they should have made that nine pages of content into a splat book and sold it.Kripes full circle eh?Anyway, if you can handle constructive criticism, I think your post really does come off a bit insulting, but for the sake of argument I'll take you seriously.I started when I was 8 too, and my story is simular to yours.You want to see the thrill and joy thats been promised?  Give it a fair shake for your players.  If -they- are pumped and having a blast, you'll find that "magic" back in the game, irrespective of what version your playing.  My players freaked out they enjoyed 4e so much, and thats the only test that counts.</blockquote>

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