We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.

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Another piece talking about the harassment of women in tabletop gaming has surfaced on the internet. At least one of the incidents related in that piece has been substantiated as being true, so I am willing to accept that there is more truth in that article. Whether gamers, or geeks in general, want to admit it or not, there are serious issues within our communities with how people act towards women, people of color, and the LGBTQI. We need to knock that off right now. Obviously, this is an opinion piece.
Just as a warning, for those who might be bothered by certain sorts of content, some of the incidents that were relayed to me, the stories that were told, have jarring, uncomfortable occurrences in them. If mentions of rape and unsolicitated physical contact will bother you, you might want to skip the rest of this article. I know reading the emails and PMs from these women bothered me as they came in.

As much as what these women related bothered me, and obviously bothered them as the targets of the harassment, I felt that the fact that it was so uncomfortable was exactly the reason why this current piece needed to be written. We, as a group, need to start looking the people doing this harassment in the eye and telling them that we don’t think it is okay. We need to stop pushing these accounts into the shadows, under the rugs, and pretending that they do not exist. We need to make our communities into better places for everyone, and not just a bunch of men.

I put out a call over my various social media feeds (which was shared a lot), asking for women to share their experiences of harassment in tabletop gaming with me. Anonymity was offered to those who wanted it, and not surprisingly most respondents asked that their names be kept confidential. The reasons for them wanting to be kept anonymous were one of two. First, they were afraid of further harassment within their communities for calling out the bad behavior. They seen how women who tell men to stop get treated in small, closed communities and, for better or worse, they want to continue with their hobbies without additional harassment. The second reason was a bit scarier. Some of these women are professionals, working in tabletop gaming in a number of different capacities, who fear that publicly coming forward would negatively impact their careers within gaming.

I’ll just say that last one again, with emphasis: they were afraid that coming forward about their harassment, or the harassment that they had witnessed, would negatively impact their careers in tabletop gaming.

Because of these reasons, I will be keeping the identities of everyone who asked anonymous. Everyone who spoke with me identified themselves, I am just not identifying them.

One of the common threads through the experiences shared was rape. Most of these women had had characters raped during convention play, online games, or at events at stores. Sometimes the rapes were matter-of-factly introduced into play, others there was a titillating level of graphic detail to the assaults. One women talked about how a regular attendee at a local convention bragged of having a “rape kit” in his car for the women at the convention, and at one point he yelled at her to “find him women to sleep with.” She also talked about the organizers of the convention having a “men only camping retreat” and when she was on the board of the con the only way that she could attend was “nude and wearing a dog collar.” Another woman talked about the GM of her online game suddenly having her character knocked unconscious, taken away on a ship, and then graphically narrated raping her character. All of this occurred on voice chat while using a popular virtual tabletop site.

Another woman told me that her attempts at organizing a couple of women only games for a VTT online convention was met with such vehemence from male gamers that the games were pulled from the schedule of the convention.

People wonder why more and more people think that anti-harassment policies are needed at conventions. After all, even Gen Con has one:
Gen Con: The Best Four Days in Gaming! is dedicated to providing a harassment-free Event experience for everyone, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size, race, religion, or affiliation. We do not tolerate harassment of convention participants in any form. Convention participants violating these rules may be sanctioned or expelled without refund at the discretion of show management.

And an Ethics policy:

All of the following constitute grounds for expulsion from the convention without refund:
  • Violating any federal, state, or local laws, facility rules or convention policies
  • Failure to comply with the instructions of Gen Con Event Staff or security personnel
  • Using anything in a threatening or destructive manner against person or property
  • Endangering the safety of oneself or others
  • Threatening, stealing, cheating or harassing others
  • Failure to conduct oneself in a mature manner

The creators of the 13th Age RPG have anti-harassment policies for their organized play because “Nobody shows up for a game with the goal of feeling uncomfortable or unsafe, and sorry that they came. But organized play brings together many different types of people with different expectations and approaches to play. An anti-harassment policy sets ground rules that everyone can recognize and follow, resulting in better games and more fun.” In the policy they outline harassment as “Everyone has the right to a space that is safe from any type of harassment: physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual.”

Honestly, considering the experiences that have been related to me, these sorts of policies should be commonplace for conventions and organized play. I have heard that Paizo is currently drafting an anti-harassment policy for their organized play, and Ad Astra Games has one in place already.

These are some of the more overt things that women have to deal with in their tabletop gaming experiences, and doesn’t go into the more “casual” or systemic harassment and sexism that women deal with at conventions, in online play and at game stores. One of the women talked about women being a subclass in society, and it being more so in gaming communities. “It sucks for a female gamer, going into a store and having that reaction.”

Men are openly commenting on women’s body parts in a sexual manner. Sexual content is added to games because “that’s the kind of stuff that women like.” Crude sexual references and jokes are made.

I’m not saying that there is no place for sexual, or adult themes, in gaming. Just the opposite, in fact. In my personal groups I game with grownups, and we play games that can have adult material in them. We have, however, agreed that content like that is okay in advance, and most of the time we agree that players’ agency over their characters should not be railroaded by the story of the game, or the actions of the GM. There is a huge difference between making awkward sexual comments out of the blue, because you are hoping it will interest a woman gamer, and making awkward sexual comments that people expect in their game. This goes doubly so for games in public spaces, like conventions or stores.

And just because it is okay with your wife, girlfriend or the woman in your gaming group at home, that doesn’t mean that it is okay with all women. If it makes someone at the table uncomfortable, or makes them feel like they are being harassed, just don’t do it, or apologize for having done it.

And, of course, none of them are safe from accusations of being a “fake geek girl,” or being in the store to get something for their husband or boyfriend. Apparently the idea that a woman would want to buy her own dice or miniatures or rule books is alien to some gamers.

As Jon Peterson, author of Playing at the World, points out in an online essay, there have always been gender problems in tabletop gaming. But he also points out that women have been interested in tabletop gaming for a long time. But, just because something has “always been that way,” it does not mean that it has to stay that way. Even in the 1970s TSR Games employees were taken to task by fandom, and female designers, to be more respectful of women gamers and to stop using phrases like “ladygamers.” Sadly, these attitudes that were considered to be outdated back then are still being perpetuated now…in some cases by some of the same people.

My first AD&D group, back in 1979, had a woman for the GM, and about half of the group were women. Most of my groups since then have had women involved in them. We need to be better, as a community, about these things. We need to speak out when we see women being harassed, online or in person, and we need to tell the people who think that doing this is okay that it isn’t. We need to be active in making the change that creates better communities where we don’t have to worry about our friends being harassed because of their gender, or their sexual preferences, or their ethnicity. We have to convince conventions and organized play societies that having anti-harassment policies is a good thing, and enforcing them so that everyone feels welcomed and accepted is a better thing.

Guys, we have to remember that this isn’t about us. This isn’t about our perceptions of what is happening at conventions, during organized play events and in online games. We sit back, listen and ask what we need to do, rather than try to make the discussion about how it “isn’t all men.” We already know that. We need to not take the focus away from what needs to be done.

There are never going to be completely safe spaces, in gaming or outside of it. However, we can make better places where no one has to worry about their body parts being part of the table talk, or their characters being sexually violated. It is the 21st century, and we should be better about this than we are. We need to stop being quiet, stop facilitating harassment, and we need to start making better spaces for ourselves and our fellow gamers. A group, like nerds, that talk so much about being harassed in their youth for being different should really be more sensitive about harassing others. We can, as a group, be better about this, and we need to do it.
 

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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Are you kidding me?

No.

Seriously?

Yes

London (England) just started up a Report it To Stop It campaign last year. Harassment reports have gone up FIVE TIMES since then, and they still think that it's a massively underreported issue. Before the program, they were estimating some NINETY per cent of cases were going unreported.

Great! Do something like that, but either don't kick anyone out without evidence, or kick them both out.

And you want to put some schmuck who's been hired as security (if the con even has security) in charge of determining the validity of a harassment report? What exactly constitutes "He said, she said"? Must we have witnesses who will testify that he did it? Video evidence? Choirs of angels? Good grief, that's ludicrous.

So call the police and let the cops sort it out. No need to get hired security involved at all. It's actually better that way. If someone is going to make a false accusation, let's make it a crime and get them to fill out a false police report.

Look, it would suck to be falsely accused, but, y'know what? Too bad. The issue is so under reported anyway, that being reported is pretty much good enough. Don't want to get reported? Be careful not to be an :):):):):):):) at a con. Pretty bloody simple.

Eh, no. Women don't get a free pass in being on potentially criminal acts just because someone is a jerk.
 

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Elf Witch

First Post
It's more than about fairness, and it's far from superficial. False accusations are criminal in many cases, as in every case where someone is at risk of criminal prosecution. That's not something to be swept under the rug.

When I was in my early 20's, a woman I lived with who is also a gamer, accused me of assault and battery. Apparently she thought that she could just not prosecute, so she called the police. Well, O.J. happened and the law was changed so that it wasn't up to the woman any longer. This was on the 4th of July and the 5th was a Friday. I spent 4 days in jail waiting for Monday to come along all because a woman decided to falsely accuse me of something I didn't do.

Don't tell me that it's superficially fair to even things up in order to discourage that from happening to someone else. A woman who was really assaulted will be more likely to accuse the perpetrator with that fairness in place, then a woman who is going to falsely accuse a man.

First let me say I am very sorry that happened to you.

And I firmly support if some is caught making a false accusation that they be kicked out and banned for life.

But what you are suggesting is not fair. I was groped in an elevator at a con when I was 18 he had me pushed against the wall and had his hands painfully shoved up me. I was terrified I was going to get raped and since it was only two years since I had been raped I was suffering PTSD from the assault. There were no cameras in the elevator and we were alone. I did report it and was told then knew he did things like that but they would keep a closer eye on him. Now tell me what if they had decided to kick me out for that. That I would be the one punished because I didn't just take it and keep my mouth shut. In what world do you live is that in any way fair?

I keep saying that at least at the Worldcon they don't kick people out without proof they get a warning and they try and keep an eye out for them. If something happened like what happened with me today they would bring the police in because a crime had been allegedly committed.
 
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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
But what you are suggesting is not fair. I was groped in an elevator at a con when I was 18 he had me pushed against the wall and had his hands painfully shoved up me. I was terrified I was going to get raped and since it was only two years since I had been raped I was suffering PTSD from the assault. There were no cameras in the elevator and we were alone. I did report it and was told then knew he did things like that but they would keep a closer eye on him. Now tell me what if they had decided to kick me out for that. That I would be the one punished because I didn't just take it and keep my mouth shut. In what world do you live is that in away fair?

I'm really sorry that happened to you. The bolded part is what gets me, though. If they knew he did things like that, he shouldn't have been anywhere near there. That sort of crap ticks me off. In that circumstance, there was more going on than a simple he said, she said and no you shouldn't have been kicked out.
 

cmad1977

Hero
I'm really sorry that happened to you. The bolded part is what gets me, though. If they knew he did things like that, he shouldn't have been anywhere near there. That sort of crap ticks me off. In that circumstance, there was more going on than a simple he said, she said and no you shouldn't have been kicked out.

But really.. How can you trust her? She's 'alone in an elevator'. That's a perfect 'he said, she said' situation. False accusations happen all the time! Hell, she's probably making all this up to garner attention.
 
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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
But really.. How can you trust her? She's 'alone in an elevator'. That's a perfect 'he said, she said' situation. False accusations happen all the time! Hell, she's probably making all this up to garner attention.

Do you have anything of relevance to add to the discussion?
 


Lehrbuch

First Post
Maybe cameras could be made available to women who want them and they could be given a sign warning people that being around them at the convention means that they are being taped.

Although I can see that you didn't intend it in this way, I don't think that setting women up to be stigmatised is really going to help.

If a man fears being falsely accused of harassment, at a con, then the man should make sure he is never alone in a room with a woman (or alone with a group of women), and the man can wear a body-cam and a sign warning other men and women in his proximity that they are being taped.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
I simply don't want anyone kicked out of a con when there's no evidence of a 'crime'.

If the person is known to the staff for just that sort of behavior, it is unlikely that someone is going to coincidentally be making a false accusation about him. Known behavior of that sort is enough "evidence" for me to be okay with kicking someone out if he's accused again. Really, though, he shouldn't have been allowed back in the first place.
 

Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Although I can see that you didn't intend it in this way, I don't think that setting women up to be stigmatised is really going to help.

I can see that.

If a man fears being falsely accused of harassment, at a con, then the man should make sure he is never alone in a room with a woman (or alone with a group of women), and the man can wear a body-cam and a sign warning other men and women in his proximity that they are being taped.

A man should never have to fear being falsely accused. Your solution also works both ways. It can equally be applied to women as, "If a woman fears being assaulted by men, she should not be alone with one or a group of men."

Neither "solution" is a solution.
 

MechaPilot

Explorer
I'm conflicted. On one hand, I want things made safer for women. On the other hand, I really dislike big brother looking over my shoulder. This country has already lost too many freedoms in the name of safety. Freedom has costs, which could include me.

Maybe cameras could be made available to women who want them and they could be given a sign warning people that being around them at the convention means that they are being taped.

I don't see being recorded in a public place as a loss of freedom: the very nature of being in public means not having privacy while you are in public. The presence of cameras in public places just means that there are unflinching observers who can bear unbiased witness to what they saw. I wouldn't want them in the bathrooms, but I have worked in retail and fast food enough to have no problem with being on-camera while in public.

Also, I don't think the cameras and signs for women who want them idea would go over so well. For one thing, if I were offered such a thing I would automatically assume the event I was attending was not safe to attend and would leave (retaining my dignity and the sanctity of my person is more valuable to me than the sunk costs of attendance would be). Secondly, the signs would quite likely cause those with the cameras & signs to become pariahs at the event. Imagine if you were at a table and a woman with a camera and sign also sat at that table to play. If you would have second thoughts about playing with a wired woman at the table, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that such a woman might be asked to leave many tables because she was making the other players (or the DMs) uncomfortable?
 

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