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<blockquote data-quote="TiQuinn" data-source="post: 244309" data-attributes="member: 4871"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PrCs</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You said the spellpool balances out the class. Since my argument hinged upon the fact that the spellpool ability is not balanced, I had to repeat myself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My point, which you missed, was that preventing someone from using a class ability on the basis of time, even if it's from a PrC which I think is broken, is silly. Yes, that is what you suggested. Here's what you said:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't recall how long it takes to cast spells into the spellpool to build up a surplus, but it probably is similar time wise to learning a spell. Regardless, it is potentially something that can be done in the down time that adventurers have, same as creating items or buying equipment, etc. It isn't something that requires years or months or days. Again, my point is that it's broken.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, yes you did. See above comment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, it doesn't need to be an extended period of time to be abused.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My apologies, I was wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gotcha, heard you the first time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Redundant, much?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So will I.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Last time I checked, that is what I said. Thank you for repeating it for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree. It is a good warning signal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? I couldn't tell. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>Prestige classes are broken if they do not offer a give and take scenario. If choosing between a PrC and a standard class is a no-brainer, the PrC is probably broken. Going over PrC's with a fine tooth comb like this is pointless. </p><p></p><p>But to summarize:</p><p></p><p>I think you're wrong about Mage of the Arcane Order.</p><p></p><p>I'm wrong about Order of the Bow AoO ability.</p><p></p><p>You're wrong if you think that a +1 to spellcaster level is not a warning signal that a PrC may be overpowered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TiQuinn, post: 244309, member: 4871"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PrCs[/b] You said the spellpool balances out the class. Since my argument hinged upon the fact that the spellpool ability is not balanced, I had to repeat myself. My point, which you missed, was that preventing someone from using a class ability on the basis of time, even if it's from a PrC which I think is broken, is silly. Yes, that is what you suggested. Here's what you said: I don't recall how long it takes to cast spells into the spellpool to build up a surplus, but it probably is similar time wise to learning a spell. Regardless, it is potentially something that can be done in the down time that adventurers have, same as creating items or buying equipment, etc. It isn't something that requires years or months or days. Again, my point is that it's broken. Actually, yes you did. See above comment. Again, it doesn't need to be an extended period of time to be abused. My apologies, I was wrong. Gotcha, heard you the first time. Redundant, much? So will I. Last time I checked, that is what I said. Thank you for repeating it for me. I disagree. It is a good warning signal. Really? I couldn't tell. :rolleyes: Prestige classes are broken if they do not offer a give and take scenario. If choosing between a PrC and a standard class is a no-brainer, the PrC is probably broken. Going over PrC's with a fine tooth comb like this is pointless. But to summarize: I think you're wrong about Mage of the Arcane Order. I'm wrong about Order of the Bow AoO ability. You're wrong if you think that a +1 to spellcaster level is not a warning signal that a PrC may be overpowered. [/QUOTE]
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