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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 6795340" data-attributes="member: 6803643">Tony Vargas took my points and ran with them in a more eloquent way. Suffice to say, 5e needs to be flexible, and that takes a lot of DM adjudication, and thus Rule Zero gets implemented a lot in 5e. Oberoni Fallacy doesn't really work when talking about 5e because 5e de-emphasizes the purpose of CharOp (power to the players). This is probably my biggest issue with the D&amp;D Adventurer's League – it takes away the power of houserulling from the DM for the sake of &quot;fairness&quot; and thus imposes a structure on 5e the edition was never meant to carry.In any case, trying to make the game fair for different ability scores is what got us into the madness of the 4e Battlemind attacking with his Constitution (or the ConLock for that matter). Nobody really argues that Constitution isn't fairly treated in 5e; in fact, because of 5e's bounded accuracy and bounded ability score maximums, Constitution is the ability score everyone wants to invest in. Likewise, all abilities are worth investing in by almost any and every character to some extent. 5e finally throws off the shackles of the 1 or 2 ability score using characters that were common in 3rd and 4th editions (remember that I loved 4th edition, in spite of this flaw).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 6795340, member: 6803643"] Tony Vargas took my points and ran with them in a more eloquent way. Suffice to say, 5e needs to be flexible, and that takes a lot of DM adjudication, and thus Rule Zero gets implemented a lot in 5e. Oberoni Fallacy doesn't really work when talking about 5e because 5e de-emphasizes the purpose of CharOp (power to the players). This is probably my biggest issue with the D&D Adventurer's League – it takes away the power of houserulling from the DM for the sake of "fairness" and thus imposes a structure on 5e the edition was never meant to carry. In any case, trying to make the game fair for different ability scores is what got us into the madness of the 4e Battlemind attacking with his Constitution (or the ConLock for that matter). Nobody really argues that Constitution isn't fairly treated in 5e; in fact, because of 5e's bounded accuracy and bounded ability score maximums, Constitution is the ability score everyone wants to invest in. Likewise, all abilities are worth investing in by almost any and every character to some extent. 5e finally throws off the shackles of the 1 or 2 ability score using characters that were common in 3rd and 4th editions (remember that I loved 4th edition, in spite of this flaw). [/QUOTE]

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