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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6806227" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I'm not doubting that you heard that from some PF fans. But what you actually said was, "The highest praise I heard from PF fans was..." And clearly that's not true. Obviously not now, since a PF fan just told you otherwise in the post right above this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. I'll also note that your "defending 5e" usually consists of "It's not awful, just meh. Could do a lot better." If that's what you consider defending, I hope you're not a defense lawyer.</p><p></p><p>For the record, I'm not saying 5e is immune to criticism. I've criticized it myself several times in the past. But it seems to be stubborn disingenuous argument to keep viewing it as just "meh" or "average at best" when the fan community reactions, official reviews, game store sales results, game store/convention tables playing it, etc all point to it being a great game--one of the best editions so far, it certainly seems. And that's something we can point to beyond just your or my anecdotal evidence. Especially when your anecdotal evidence claims are untrue, as was just proven.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6806227, member: 15700"] I'm not doubting that you heard that from some PF fans. But what you actually said was, "The highest praise I heard from PF fans was..." And clearly that's not true. Obviously not now, since a PF fan just told you otherwise in the post right above this. Indeed. I'll also note that your "defending 5e" usually consists of "It's not awful, just meh. Could do a lot better." If that's what you consider defending, I hope you're not a defense lawyer. For the record, I'm not saying 5e is immune to criticism. I've criticized it myself several times in the past. But it seems to be stubborn disingenuous argument to keep viewing it as just "meh" or "average at best" when the fan community reactions, official reviews, game store sales results, game store/convention tables playing it, etc all point to it being a great game--one of the best editions so far, it certainly seems. And that's something we can point to beyond just your or my anecdotal evidence. Especially when your anecdotal evidence claims are untrue, as was just proven. [/QUOTE]
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