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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6807242" data-attributes="member: 53980">In fairness, your barbarian friend must have rolled improbably well, and not just on HP. Rolling maximum every time on 1d12 nets only 60 HP at 5th. If he started with an 18 Con, he gets another 20 HP, for a total of 80, but that would mean that he either prioritized Con over Str, or he rolled so amazingly well for ability scores that he didn't need to. Finally, in order to reach 90 HP, he also has to take the Toughness feat. While it is technically possible, it certainly won't the norm. In any system with random generation you're going to have improbably lucky coincidences, like the guy who rolls three 18s in 3d6 stat generation. To put this in perspective, I recently rolled up a 15th level NPC cleric with only 86 HP. Assuming average HP, she'll be 18th level before she can ignore PW:K while at max HP.While I agree that they curbed instant death effects a bit, I also think you're overstating the issue. My players just hit 19th level last session and I can't count the number of times that I could have nailed them with PW:K (had there been a mage to cast it).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6807242, member: 53980"] In fairness, your barbarian friend must have rolled improbably well, and not just on HP. Rolling maximum every time on 1d12 nets only 60 HP at 5th. If he started with an 18 Con, he gets another 20 HP, for a total of 80, but that would mean that he either prioritized Con over Str, or he rolled so amazingly well for ability scores that he didn't need to. Finally, in order to reach 90 HP, he also has to take the Toughness feat. While it is technically possible, it certainly won't the norm. In any system with random generation you're going to have improbably lucky coincidences, like the guy who rolls three 18s in 3d6 stat generation. To put this in perspective, I recently rolled up a 15th level NPC cleric with only 86 HP. Assuming average HP, she'll be 18th level before she can ignore PW:K while at max HP. While I agree that they curbed instant death effects a bit, I also think you're overstating the issue. My players just hit 19th level last session and I can't count the number of times that I could have nailed them with PW:K (had there been a mage to cast it). [/QUOTE]

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