what anime should I start collecting?

[Alzrius]

When I said "Within reason", I was more talking along the lines of taking a carrot and calling it manga.

Given that I took a different view of what you said, this is a perfect example of how "within reason" is too subjective.

Hmm...okay, poor wording on my part. Does the author call it Manga? If so, it is, if not, it isn't.

Well, if we go with my (re-worded) definition, then there's no real room for argument.

Sure there is. That completely and utterly removes any consideration of artistic style and location from the picture. By that reasoning, Jolly R. Blackburn could say that Knights of the Dinner Table is a manga, and it would be.

Perhaps the main problem here is the very fact that we're trying to define a very abstract concept?

Most definately.

 

[Sixchan]

Given that I took a different view of what you said, this is a perfect example of how "within reason" is too subjective.

Sure there is. That completely and utterly removes any consideration of artistic style and location from the picture. By that reasoning, Jolly R. Blackburn could say that Knights of the Dinner Table is a manga, and it would be.

If all it takes for Knights of the Dinner Table to be manga is for Jolly R. Blackburn to say it is, than that means if he says it is, it is. And if it is, then you can't argue that it isn't.

Besides, what does artistic style have to do with anything? Crayon Shin Chan and Gundam Wing don't have a common artistic style, remember?

Most definately.

Do you think we should just give up, then?

 

[s/LaSH]

Might not be quite what the doctor ordered, but what about The Animatrix? One DVD of high-quality stuff. As to whether it counts as anime, well, bits of it come from different places, some of which are in Japan, so I reckon that counts.

Anybody else noticing a trend, by the by, of American people coming up with something and giving the Japanese lots of money to make it? Lots more money than the Japanese would, at any rate. Animatrix and the in-some-stage-I-don't-know Lady Death movie, for example.

 

[jdavis]

Watching Full Metal Panic right now, so far so good. Also picked up the first volume of Samurai Deeper Kyo but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.

Just to update: Samurai Deeper Kyo is great, I was highly impressed.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1133

http://www.samuraideeperkyo.us/nopopup.html

 

[Alzrius]

If all it takes for Knights of the Dinner Table to be manga is for Jolly R. Blackburn to say it is, than that means if he says it is, it is. And if it is, then you can't argue that it isn't.

Part of the reason we're having this discussion though is that you can argue with that. Most people agree that there are defining terms for what a "manga style" comic is. The problem is no one can concretely lay down what those terms are without a valid challenge being laid to them.

Besides, what does artistic style have to do with anything? Crayon Shin Chan and Gundam Wing don't have a common artistic style, remember?

That's exactly the point. Style does have something to do with it, despite the fact that there doesn't seem to be a universality of it among anime and manga from Japan.

Do you think we should just give up, then?

Yeah. This is interesting, but we aren't getting any closer to actually getting a working definition than we were when we began this. It was fun though.

 

[jdavis]

Something I just read over at animation insider on CNX:http://animationinsider.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=1609

CNX, the United Kingdom based Turner network, will cease operations in September. According to an announcement made today the network will be replaced by “Toonami” – a network aimed at a young teen audience by including programming like X-Men Evolution. A representative at Turner Entertainment defended the decision by calling the adult market “crowded and competitive."

Earlier, Animation Insider reported that CNX was being eyed for expansion to the United States. No details have been provided regarding the future of such an endeavor or if a US based “Toonami” network is currently in the works.

Keeping checking Animation Insider for the latest on this breaking story.

Special thanks to LFV for bringing this story to our attention.

 

[Enchantress2]

I glanced at your profile and mixed up your interests with your occupation. My wife majored in creative writing (poetry) though so I know the same sentiment unfortunately remains. (though we always hope otherwise)

Again, very flattered.

No one freak out! It's still just plain ol' Enchantress, but I had to go on a trip and I can't bring my computer with me. So for the next 6 weeks I shall be Enchantress2.

I am also reminded that I have seen the Animatrix and was very impressed. And even though it isn't an anime, the show x-men evolution is a favorite of mine. The plot and story isn't afraid to delve into some of the darker subjects that only anime seems to go.

 

[Alzrius]

No one freak out! It's still just plain ol' Enchantress, but I had to go on a trip and I can't bring my computer with me. So for the next 6 weeks I shall be Enchantress2.

I'm slightly confused. You obviously have some sort of computer access, hence why you're here now. Why can't you just use your old name? There isn't anything computer-specific with registering here at EN World; whether its a home computer or one in an internet cafe, your existing name should be fine, shouldn't it?

 

[Enchantress2]

I'm slightly confused. You obviously have some sort of computer access, hence why you're here now. Why can't you just use your old name? There isn't anything computer-specific with registering here at EN World; whether its a home computer or one in an internet cafe, your existing name should be fine, shouldn't it?

Really? I thought that since I am using a different computer I needed to re-register. And since my home computer already has me registered as Enchantress, I can't register again on a different computer under the same name.

Did ya catch all that? I dunno, maybe I'm just making this whole thing more complicated than it has to be.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Really? I thought that since I am using a different computer I needed to re-register. And since my home computer already has me registered as Enchantress, I can't register again on a different computer under the same name.

Did ya catch all that? I dunno, maybe I'm just making this whole thing more complicated than it has to be.

It took me a while to figure out how to login from my folks' computer. If you click on the User CP, it'll prompt you for your name and password, so that's how I usually do it.