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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9106010" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Has any modern fantasy made it to movies or TV? I can't think of anything which started after about 1996 which has made it to TV so far. WoT is '80s, Witcher is 1990s, GoT was 1996, LotR is 1940s, Conan 1930s.</p><p></p><p>If we look at fantasy on TV/movies that isn't based on novels, then stuff like Raya and the Last Dragon clearly follows the model I'm discussing, or Avatar. I would suggest most animated fantasy probably does in fact.</p><p></p><p>If we look at written fantasy, then we can probably go by authors where it's typically the case - Leigh Bardugo, RJ Barker (who does vaguely hint but never state that his humans aren't Earth humans - his settings are often slightly Dark Sun-like, i.e. post-magic/environmental apocalypse, and you may well recall that Dark Sun strongly hinted changes had been made to humans, but never outright stated it), Jenn Lyons, Mark Lawrence, Sarah J. Maas, T. Kingfisher, Brian Staveley (who does an interestingly weirdo combo of explained and unexplained superhuman feats and capacities), and I could go on. Do you need to me to? I listed a bunch of crazy best-selling people here.</p><p></p><p>And we have a lot of older novels where it's hinted that humans are different but never stated - Gene Wolfe, for example. We also have modern authors where human limits apply - except when they don't. For example, an <em>explicitly non-magic-assisted</em> human woman performs incredibly outlandish feats in Steven Erikson's Reaper's Gale. One might likewise make a case that many of Conan's feats are not ones a "normal human" could accomplish.</p><p></p><p>I strongly suspect that if I re-read Stormlight Archive (which isn't going to happen) we'd see that even before explicit magic being in the mix, they would clearly be "not earth humans". Hell, the fact that their hair works the way it does means they aren't, just by itself. But is it ever stated? No. Are they called something other than human? No.</p><p></p><p>The list of authors where humans really do seem to definitely be earth humans would be shorter, I think. GRRM's A Game of Thrones immediately comes to mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9106010, member: 18"] Has any modern fantasy made it to movies or TV? I can't think of anything which started after about 1996 which has made it to TV so far. WoT is '80s, Witcher is 1990s, GoT was 1996, LotR is 1940s, Conan 1930s. If we look at fantasy on TV/movies that isn't based on novels, then stuff like Raya and the Last Dragon clearly follows the model I'm discussing, or Avatar. I would suggest most animated fantasy probably does in fact. If we look at written fantasy, then we can probably go by authors where it's typically the case - Leigh Bardugo, RJ Barker (who does vaguely hint but never state that his humans aren't Earth humans - his settings are often slightly Dark Sun-like, i.e. post-magic/environmental apocalypse, and you may well recall that Dark Sun strongly hinted changes had been made to humans, but never outright stated it), Jenn Lyons, Mark Lawrence, Sarah J. Maas, T. Kingfisher, Brian Staveley (who does an interestingly weirdo combo of explained and unexplained superhuman feats and capacities), and I could go on. Do you need to me to? I listed a bunch of crazy best-selling people here. And we have a lot of older novels where it's hinted that humans are different but never stated - Gene Wolfe, for example. We also have modern authors where human limits apply - except when they don't. For example, an [I]explicitly non-magic-assisted[/I] human woman performs incredibly outlandish feats in Steven Erikson's Reaper's Gale. One might likewise make a case that many of Conan's feats are not ones a "normal human" could accomplish. I strongly suspect that if I re-read Stormlight Archive (which isn't going to happen) we'd see that even before explicit magic being in the mix, they would clearly be "not earth humans". Hell, the fact that their hair works the way it does means they aren't, just by itself. But is it ever stated? No. Are they called something other than human? No. The list of authors where humans really do seem to definitely be earth humans would be shorter, I think. GRRM's A Game of Thrones immediately comes to mind. [/QUOTE]
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