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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9107024" data-attributes="member: 6801845">How many movies and TV shows do we have where the protagonist takes out a dozen or more enemies?&nbsp; The Witcher is another good example of a high level PC, and one that wouldn't look out of place as an eldritch knight. But Geralt, outside of a handful of thunder waves, relies almost exclusively on fairly mundane fighting.&nbsp; Yet he takes out plenty of large (or huge) monsters.&nbsp; But even more grounded ones like The Last Kingdom where Uhtred survives dozens of battles with rarely a scratch.&nbsp; When we see scenes where they're fighting off multiple opponents simultaneously my wife and I just look at each other and say &quot;high level fighter&quot;.&nbsp; Higher level fighters are Captain America or the Black Panther.&nbsp; Those are the kind of mundane fighters I want to model and that I think D&amp;D does a decent job of.&nbsp; More than human standard?&nbsp; Maybe. But they're still running around swinging a sword most of the time.&nbsp; But I don't want them to be The Hulk or Superman.&nbsp; I certainly don't want them running around casting spells by another name, unless it's explicitly part of the subclass like my Rune Knight.As far as healing and whatnot, damage doesn't automatically assume gaping wounds.&nbsp; Even if it does, so what?&nbsp; People heal more quickly when their bodies can integrate magic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9107024, member: 6801845"] How many movies and TV shows do we have where the protagonist takes out a dozen or more enemies? The Witcher is another good example of a high level PC, and one that wouldn't look out of place as an eldritch knight. But Geralt, outside of a handful of thunder waves, relies almost exclusively on fairly mundane fighting. Yet he takes out plenty of large (or huge) monsters. But even more grounded ones like The Last Kingdom where Uhtred survives dozens of battles with rarely a scratch. When we see scenes where they're fighting off multiple opponents simultaneously my wife and I just look at each other and say "high level fighter". Higher level fighters are Captain America or the Black Panther. Those are the kind of mundane fighters I want to model and that I think D&D does a decent job of. More than human standard? Maybe. But they're still running around swinging a sword most of the time. But I don't want them to be The Hulk or Superman. I certainly don't want them running around casting spells by another name, unless it's explicitly part of the subclass like my Rune Knight. As far as healing and whatnot, damage doesn't automatically assume gaping wounds. Even if it does, so what? People heal more quickly when their bodies can integrate magic. [/QUOTE]

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