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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9108761" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>No. It's not about it being "all or nothing" here. It's about how this is weaponized <em>only against specific things</em>, and then completely ignored everywhere else. That conveniences for a smoother, easier, more reasonable gaming experience are great only until they run afoul of some nebulous personal line, and as soon as they do, nope, absolutely not, doesn't matter how serious a design problem it may introduce, <em>absolutely never ever,</em> and how DARE you say otherwise, you fun-ruiner you.</p><p></p><p>"Verisimilitude only for the things I care a lot about" is one thing. "Verisimilitude only for the things I care about <em>and especially against the things you care about</em>" is a pretty serious problem. One I have personally seen, repeatedly, both on this forum and in general stuff, sincerely and explicitly expressed. Especially when, as stated, it is used as a justification for current design or for why serious ongoing problems other people have should never, ever be changed no matter what.</p><p></p><p><em>Some</em> verismilitude is fine. Verisimilitude that doesn't hurt anyone else's fun is great. Verisimilitude that DOES hurt others' fun should be, <em>at the very least</em>, treated as a serious imposition only to be levied in truly dire circumstances.</p><p></p><p>I've had someone say, directly and explicitly <em>on this forum</em>, that being overtly racist toward dragonborn PCs unless and until the player chooses to start playing something else, is a proper and appropriate approach to play. <em>Specifically because of alleged verisimilitude</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9108761, member: 6790260"] No. It's not about it being "all or nothing" here. It's about how this is weaponized [I]only against specific things[/I], and then completely ignored everywhere else. That conveniences for a smoother, easier, more reasonable gaming experience are great only until they run afoul of some nebulous personal line, and as soon as they do, nope, absolutely not, doesn't matter how serious a design problem it may introduce, [I]absolutely never ever,[/I] and how DARE you say otherwise, you fun-ruiner you. "Verisimilitude only for the things I care a lot about" is one thing. "Verisimilitude only for the things I care about [I]and especially against the things you care about[/I]" is a pretty serious problem. One I have personally seen, repeatedly, both on this forum and in general stuff, sincerely and explicitly expressed. Especially when, as stated, it is used as a justification for current design or for why serious ongoing problems other people have should never, ever be changed no matter what. [I]Some[/I] verismilitude is fine. Verisimilitude that doesn't hurt anyone else's fun is great. Verisimilitude that DOES hurt others' fun should be, [I]at the very least[/I], treated as a serious imposition only to be levied in truly dire circumstances. I've had someone say, directly and explicitly [I]on this forum[/I], that being overtly racist toward dragonborn PCs unless and until the player chooses to start playing something else, is a proper and appropriate approach to play. [I]Specifically because of alleged verisimilitude[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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