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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9112164" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>See below...</p><p></p><p>How so? The characters are in theory inhabitants of a world as real to them as ours is to us, right?</p><p></p><p>With all due respect to your late wife (condolences, by the way), gardening is a hobby with many different moving parts and I'd be willing to bet big money there were aspects of gardening she really liked doing and other aspects she did only because she had to. I say this on the basis of having known other gardeners (my mother among them, long ago) for whom this was invariably true: some parts of gardening were fun, other parts a chore, and the sum total was an enjoyable hobby.</p><p></p><p>By the same token I quite enjoy DMing; but there's certain aspects of prep and-or follow-up that I neither like nor enjoy doing, and that I do only because I have to in order to facilitate the fun bits. Adventure writing is one such thing: yes I enjoy coming up with the ideas and basics for an adventure but getting it all down on paper (be it real or virtual) in a readable edited form complete with maps etc. is for the most part a long and bloody tedious chore; a chore I do because the payoff is that I then get to run said adventure. </p><p></p><p>For adventures that aren't my own, the chore part is (if necessary) converting them from another edition and (always) chopping out all the backstory and replacing it to fit into whatever else is going on in the campaign and-or setting.</p><p></p><p>Same here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Some parts - and not the same parts for everyone - of playing D&D are or can be a chore. Other parts - again not the same for everyone - can be great fun. One example in our crew is treasury tracking and division. Some players see this as a chore and don't want to do it (and in rare cases in the past might not have been trusted to do it!), meanwhile I'm fine with doing it and thus end up as treasurer in almost any game I'm ever in. Mapping is another one: as player I see it as a chore (I do enough mapping as a DM, thanks!) but there's always another player who enjoys it, and so it gets done.</p><p></p><p>As long as the "fun" outweighs the "chore" to the point that the end result is enjoyable overall, all is good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9112164, member: 29398"] See below... How so? The characters are in theory inhabitants of a world as real to them as ours is to us, right? With all due respect to your late wife (condolences, by the way), gardening is a hobby with many different moving parts and I'd be willing to bet big money there were aspects of gardening she really liked doing and other aspects she did only because she had to. I say this on the basis of having known other gardeners (my mother among them, long ago) for whom this was invariably true: some parts of gardening were fun, other parts a chore, and the sum total was an enjoyable hobby. By the same token I quite enjoy DMing; but there's certain aspects of prep and-or follow-up that I neither like nor enjoy doing, and that I do only because I have to in order to facilitate the fun bits. Adventure writing is one such thing: yes I enjoy coming up with the ideas and basics for an adventure but getting it all down on paper (be it real or virtual) in a readable edited form complete with maps etc. is for the most part a long and bloody tedious chore; a chore I do because the payoff is that I then get to run said adventure. For adventures that aren't my own, the chore part is (if necessary) converting them from another edition and (always) chopping out all the backstory and replacing it to fit into whatever else is going on in the campaign and-or setting. Same here. :) Some parts - and not the same parts for everyone - of playing D&D are or can be a chore. Other parts - again not the same for everyone - can be great fun. One example in our crew is treasury tracking and division. Some players see this as a chore and don't want to do it (and in rare cases in the past might not have been trusted to do it!), meanwhile I'm fine with doing it and thus end up as treasurer in almost any game I'm ever in. Mapping is another one: as player I see it as a chore (I do enough mapping as a DM, thanks!) but there's always another player who enjoys it, and so it gets done. As long as the "fun" outweighs the "chore" to the point that the end result is enjoyable overall, all is good. [/QUOTE]
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