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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9112286" data-attributes="member: 86653">You've got it by the wrong end. It's not a challenge because by default RAW it's not challenging. The DCs for survival checks is ridiculously low. Outlander obviates rolling to search for food and water. Outlander is the single most popular background choice. Ranger obviates navigation in their favored terrain. Darkvision and the light cantrip obviate worrying about darkness and light sources. Etc. So...as a result of the designers making exploration meaninglessly easy to skip, most people just skip it...because it's not challenging. They don't find it challenging RAW, decide to gut the mechanics and house rule away the challenge...only to then complain that it's not challenging.That mostly comes down to monsters being pushovers in 5E and the 6-8 medium encounters being an incredibly bad design choice that only makes sense in incredibly rare circumstances, like say in a dungeon crawl. You're doing overland travel and you might get one random encounter per day. It's literally pointless bother running that fight. Unless you only do dungeon crawls or house rule things, you're never going to hit 6-8 encounters per day with any kind of regularity.Absolutely.Again, that's backwards. Most people remove that stuff because it's not challenging enough to bother with RAW. If it were challenging RAW, people wouldn't be complaining about how not challenging it is. This is literally one of my biggest complaints about 5E. RAW is not challenging and there's a lot of pointless bookkeeping kept because it was in older editions where it actually mattered. It doesn't matter in 5E. At all. It's not challenging. At all.While I agree, I also recognize that not everyone plays that way nor cares to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 9112286, member: 86653"] You've got it by the wrong end. It's not a challenge because by default RAW it's not challenging. The DCs for survival checks is ridiculously low. Outlander obviates rolling to search for food and water. Outlander is the single most popular background choice. Ranger obviates navigation in their favored terrain. Darkvision and the light cantrip obviate worrying about darkness and light sources. Etc. So...as a result of the designers making exploration meaninglessly easy to skip, most people just skip it...because it's not challenging. They don't find it challenging RAW, decide to gut the mechanics and house rule away the challenge...only to then complain that it's not challenging. That mostly comes down to monsters being pushovers in 5E and the 6-8 medium encounters being an incredibly bad design choice that only makes sense in incredibly rare circumstances, like say in a dungeon crawl. You're doing overland travel and you might get one random encounter per day. It's literally pointless bother running that fight. Unless you only do dungeon crawls or house rule things, you're never going to hit 6-8 encounters per day with any kind of regularity. Absolutely. Again, that's backwards. Most people remove that stuff because it's not challenging enough to bother with RAW. If it were challenging RAW, people wouldn't be complaining about how not challenging it is. This is literally one of my biggest complaints about 5E. RAW is not challenging and there's a lot of pointless bookkeeping kept because it was in older editions where it actually mattered. It doesn't matter in 5E. At all. It's not challenging. At all. While I agree, I also recognize that not everyone plays that way nor cares to. [/QUOTE]

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