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<blockquote data-quote="sithramir" data-source="post: 6383857" data-attributes="member: 12183">Ok. I think I see where some confusion is. It seems pretty clear from reading it&quot;&quot;You touch a willing creature. Until the spell ends, the target's skin has a rough, bark-like appearance, and the target's AC can't be less than 16 regardless of what kind of armor it is wearing.&quot;People are trying to talk about adding AC to a value that isn't AC. The spell only creates a MINIMUM value. It does not set the AC of any creature OTHER than setting their current AC to a minimum.You can't get a +2 shield or a dex bonus to this because it ISN&quot;T an AC value.There's the general rule that states you only use one AC &quot;rule&quot;. Unarmored defense, mage armor, regular armors, etc all state what your AC is with penalties, etc. The specific rule is when you look at one of these and it reads slightly differently you then use that specific value. However, this spell is giving a THIRD rule. It's basically stating that, however you calculate your AC, if said value is less than 16 it = 16. Done.It seems very confusing to me that they add another concept when it's clear in every other way to set AC but it shouldn't be treated the same unfortunately. If you have padded armor with disadvantage on stealth checks, a shield +2, and dex +5 your AC = 11 +5 +2 = 18 and no effect happens and you have disadvantage.If you had padded armor and dex +1 your AC = 11 +1 +2 = 14 and now becomes 16 but you still have disadvantage, etc. It's just a minimum value.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sithramir, post: 6383857, member: 12183"] Ok. I think I see where some confusion is. It seems pretty clear from reading it" [I]"You touch a willing creature. Until the spell ends, the target's skin has a rough, bark-like appearance, and the target's AC can't be less than 16 regardless of what kind of armor it is wearing."[/I] People are trying to talk about adding AC to a value that isn't AC. The spell only creates a MINIMUM value. It does not set the AC of any creature OTHER than setting their current AC to a minimum. You can't get a +2 shield or a dex bonus to this because it ISN"T an AC value. There's the general rule that states you only use one AC "rule". Unarmored defense, mage armor, regular armors, etc all state what your AC is with penalties, etc. The specific rule is when you look at one of these and it reads slightly differently you then use that specific value. However, this spell is giving a THIRD rule. It's basically stating that, however you calculate your AC, if said value is less than 16 it = 16. Done. It seems very confusing to me that they add another concept when it's clear in every other way to set AC but it shouldn't be treated the same unfortunately. If you have padded armor with disadvantage on stealth checks, a shield +2, and dex +5 your AC = 11 +5 +2 = 18 and no effect happens and you have disadvantage. If you had padded armor and dex +1 your AC = 11 +1 +2 = 14 and now becomes 16 but you still have disadvantage, etc. It's just a minimum value. [/QUOTE]

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