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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1103441" data-attributes="member: 172">If you are NOT using the pantheon? I refer you to my original caveat; if you already have a well established and detailed pantheon, it might not be worth it.That said, many people have lackluster and/or poorly detailed pantheons, lacking the time to give them sufficient attention. In these cases, I recommend that you take a look at BotR and see what you can use.In my own case, I did have a well established campaign that was fairly tightly integrated into my campaign history. I will admit, though, that the depth of the mythology of BotR had a much more authentic feel to it than my own. However, the campaign history still limited what I could do with it.That said, it was compelling enough that I did it anyway. I mapped a few BotR deities onto some of the less well defined deities in my own pantheon and made the rest into "old deities" still worshipped in some parts of the world, quite simply so I could use the material, because I found it that interesting.Not I. In some cases I might (I forget which version of the shadow demon I ended up using...), but for example, I find WotC's half-ogre a little silly. I don't think any Large creature should have no "race" HD. I think the ToH is much better.</blockquote>