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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8869549" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Alright, so to the main point of the post.  What would I do if I were to try to project doing something like Torchbearer-ifying 5e D&D for One D&D:LONG REST - Short or Medium Dungeons = No Long Rest.  Long Dungeon = 1 x Long Rest.  There should be a formula for each of these lengths with detailed dungeon (dungeon is a generic term here...could be wilderness, could be haunted house, etc) information including # of Obstacles/Problem Areas and associated DCs of Obstacles/Problem Areas.  Intricate guidance on how to build out a dungeon from mapping to theming to stocking.TURNS, TESTS, & TWISTS (or Success + Exhaustion) - Every Ability Check would be a Turn.  Every Turn would be a Test/Contest.  I would nail down DCs to lower, table-facing numbers.  I would then do just like BW/MG/TB and have Factors that elevate that DC by 1 or 2, which are cumulative.  Failure = either (a) Success + a level of Exhaustion or (b) a Twist (the situation changes to present a new Obstacle).EXHAUSTION & THE GRIND - 6 levels of Exhaustion.  6 Conditions (excusing Fresh and Dead) in Torchbearer (which came out 1.2 years before 5e.  Coincidence?  Doubt it.  I would institute The Grind from Torchbearer where every 4 Turns, each PC gets 1 level of Exhaustion and name them in the same fashion; Hungry/Thirsty > Angry > Afraid > Exhausted > Injured > Sick.  You can recover Hungry/Thirsty by eating a Ration or drinking 1 portion of Water from your Skin.  The other levels of Exhaustion are recovered like normal or in Camp where you spend a Hit Dice to make a save against the DC and Ability associated with the Condition/Level of Exhaustion.REDO INVENTORY - Redo it from the ground up and treat it like Torchbearer.  You're effectively loading out sections of your body; Head, Torso, Neck, Hands, Feet, Belt, Pocket, Backpack.  Redo the costs, the durations, the portions of items in a "stack", what various totes can carry.  You'll have to do this with treasure (gems, cutlery, purse of coin vs trunk) etc).  You'll have to change everything to be Coin-based to normalize things.CAMP - Make a Test against The Grind to attempt to establish a safe camp w/ DC of increasing Factors based on amenities you want (Water, Game nearby, Shelter, Concealment).  Everyone has to spend 1 Hit Dice to go into Camp phase to recover conditions, possibly resupply Food/Water, repair broken Proficiency Tools (from Twists) or helms and what not.  Someone has to Keep Watch and they cannot make any Tests to recover et al in camp.  Make a Camp Events Roll (which would need to be made for each subtype of Dungeons; eg Wilderness, Caverns) against a table (level of danger + Concealment + Shelter are Factors).  Spend 1 HD for each thing you want to do in Camp and make a Test.COIN - Normalize it.  No Gold, Silver, Copper.  Just Coin and associated value per items purchased and slot encumbrance for x value of coins (eg 1 Backpack Slot = 30 Coins or whatever).MAGIC - Every_single_spell requires a Test (eg Int and Arcana for Wizards) against The Grind to cast (or a Hit Die spent in Camp rather than The Grind) with + Factor for every odd Spell Level (so +1 Factor for 1, +2 for 3, etc) and the Base DC not being insignificant.  This should yield a high risk profile and volatility for Spellcasters.  Casting Spells will yield a lot of Twists (new Obstacles faced) or Conditions stacked on the Spellcaster.  You'd need to get this base DC right (it should be sufficiently high to trigger at least 50 % Twist or Success/Condition).  This should deeply incentivize Lightbearing because spellcasting = Grind ticked for everyone and Twists/Conditions.++++++++++++++I would start with that and see how it fares.  It would need a lot of work and a lot of stress-testing to get it right.</blockquote>

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