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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9168744" data-attributes="member: 58172">Good point about the D&amp;D tradition of Positive Energy and Negative [Void] behaving as if Elements within the Inner Planes.The Void is actually absolute nothingness, the empty space in which Positive Energy can lump into particles, then atoms, then molecules, then &quot;things&quot;. In the Shadowfell, things fray, rot and disintegrate into nothingness. Vampirism is parasitically siphoning Positive Energy from elsewhere to persist within the Void.Note, &quot;Ether&quot; is the &quot;Fifth Element&quot;. This &quot;elemental&quot; phenomenon is physical but immaterial, such as gravity having no matter but physically pulling material objects. The Four Elements are states of matter.I see seven Elemental units.• Positive (Light)• Negative (Darkness)• Ether (Force)• Fire (Plasma)• Air (Gas)• Water (Liquid)• Earth (Solid)Each of these seven elements has an Inner Plane.• Positive: Fey (Feywild)• Negative: Undead (Shadowfell)• Ether: Ethereal• Fire• Air• Water• EarthThe Material Plane is the confluence of all of these Inner Planes, and via the conscious minds of Humanoids, the Astral Outer Planes as well.Primal magic, including that of Druids, might associate with any of these seven &quot;elements&quot; − including Fey and Undead − but especially how these entangle the Material Plane. Primal magic is the magic of the Material Plane.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9168744, member: 58172"] Good point about the D&D tradition of Positive Energy and Negative [Void] behaving as if Elements within the Inner Planes. The Void is actually absolute nothingness, the empty space in which Positive Energy can lump into particles, then atoms, then molecules, then "things". In the Shadowfell, things fray, rot and disintegrate into nothingness. Vampirism is parasitically siphoning Positive Energy from elsewhere to persist within the Void. Note, "Ether" is the "Fifth Element". This "elemental" phenomenon is physical but immaterial, such as gravity having no matter but physically pulling material objects. The Four Elements are states of matter. I see seven Elemental units. • Positive (Light) • Negative (Darkness) • Ether (Force) • Fire (Plasma) • Air (Gas) • Water (Liquid) • Earth (Solid) Each of these seven elements has an Inner Plane. • Positive: Fey (Feywild) • Negative: Undead (Shadowfell) • Ether: Ethereal • Fire • Air • Water • Earth The Material Plane is the confluence of all of these Inner Planes, and via the conscious minds of Humanoids, the Astral Outer Planes as well. Primal magic, including that of Druids, might associate with any of these seven "elements" − including Fey and Undead − but especially how these entangle the Material Plane. Primal magic is the magic of the Material Plane. [/QUOTE]

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