What do I need to do to throw an opponent?

darthkilmor

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Idea came up last night, playing a yak folk thats already Large size. enlarge spell up to Huge(so thats, 15ftx15ft) (ignore that i'm not humaniod for now).
Since i'm so much larger than a 5ft human, is there a RAW way to just grapple and throw my opponents? What if i was medium sized and fighting say, a tiny rat or seomthing?
 

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Here's some stuff from the Rules of the Game articles:
Throw Your Foe to the Ground: This works just like a trip attack except that you don't make an initial touch attack (because you're grasping your foe already) and you and your foe make opposed grapple checks to resolve the trip attack. If you win, you and your foe fall prone in the space you both share, but you're still grappling. At your option you can take a -4 penalty on the opposed check; if you win you break your foe's hold on you and you throw your foe to the ground in a space adjacent to the space you formerly shared. (You stay on your feet.) Your foe's movement does not provoke attacks of opportunity, nor does it count against her movement for the current turn (or her next turn).

If you lose the opposed check, your foe gets a chance to trip you by making an opposed grapple check, just as described above.

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Here are a few optional maneuvers for use against a foe you've pinned.

Throw Your Foe to the Ground: Make an opposed grapple check as a melee attack. If you win, your foe winds up prone in any square adjacent to the square you and your foe formerly shared. The movement provokes attacks of opportunity from enemies who threaten the space your foe leaves, but the movement doesn't count against the foe's speed for the current turn. You stay on your feet in the space you formerly shared with your foe and you and your foe are no longer grappling.

Toss Your Foe: Make an opposed grapple check as a melee attack. If you succeed, you can literally pick up your foe (provided you can lift your foe's weight). Make a Strength check; if your result is at least 10, you toss your foe 5 feet. For every 5 points your Strength check result exceeds 10, you toss your foe another 5 feet, to a maximum of 25 feet.
 

The problem I have with Toss your foe is that it does not even consider the weight of your opponent. There's no difference between a rat and a human assuming you can lift either. It also doesn't provide any rules on damage (so none is taken), but I'd think that some would be taken. I also don't like that it only takes a single attack and not a standard action. To fling a Snatched victim aside requires a feat and a standard action.
 

Infiniti2000 said:
The problem I have with Toss your foe is that it does not even consider the weight of your opponent. There's no difference between a rat and a human assuming you can lift either.

Yeah, perhaps it would need an adjustment to the Strength DC according to the tosser's encumbrance while holding the tossee. Say +5 per category.

Andargor
 

Although it doesnt specify which direction you toss your foe. You could throw them straight up and then they could take falling dmg when they land?...unless you were near a cliff or pit or something that you could throw them off, or were tossing the opposing mage right next to your fighter buddy, yeah, not taking dmg makes that pretty worthless imho. hrm.
 



There's the Defensive Throw feat in OA.

As for throws, most of them don't consist of actually picking up a target and throwing them so much keeping up momentum. That mitigates a lot of weight for 'lifting'.
 

Dr. Awkward said:
Isn't there a Throw Enemy feat in Races of Stone?

From Races of Stone:

Rock Hurling - Prereqs: Str 19, Large size or larger

Fling Enemy - Prereq: Rock Hurling or the racial ability to throw rocks - Can fling when grappling as a standard action. For every 5 points your grapple check beats your opponents, you throw the enemy 10 feet and the enemy lands prone in the square you designate. You must be strong enough to lift the enemy over your head to throw them.
 

reveal said:
From Races of Stone:

Rock Hurling - Prereqs: Str 19, Large size or larger

Fling Enemy - Prereq: Rock Hurling or the racial ability to throw rocks - Can fling when grappling as a standard action. For every 5 points your grapple check beats your opponents, you throw the enemy 10 feet and the enemy lands prone in the square you designate. You must be strong enough to lift the enemy over your head to throw them.


Thats pretty cool, uses the grapple check instead of just a str check, makes more sense.
Nothing about taking dmg though when they land eh? Bother. Thats still 2 feats to do that though, dang. So would they provoke AoO's when they're getting tossed by other combatants along the, er, fling path ?
 

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