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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8441281" data-attributes="member: 7030563">This is a legitimate argument.  AE is costly  to prepare, and even more costly to know for an AT or Ranger and it is rare you get the bonus damage out of it (because when you use it the enemy is usually immune).  I have found myself in this dilima before because AE is really good when you need it, but costly to have on your list when you don't.The numbers work against this.  To fail concentration you have to both get damaged and fail the save, and the save is easy more often than not.  There is a lot of factors here obvioulsly, what are you fighting, what is your AC, what is your constitution, are you a front liner, but IME concentration generally lasts more than 2 turns. I would argue because damage is higher, the difference with extra attack for a non-caster is actually is the reverse of your argument and tilts more in favor of the spell feat.  The spell slots for a caster mean they can cast it more, but the guy without slots is less likely to be concentrating on something else.  Since Hex does more damage, with extra attack this increases the per-turn damage difference in favor of the spell.  From a math point of view, with extra attack even if you only get 2 turns out of hex, it is going to still be on par with 3 turns of damage from GMD.  I think battles that last 3 turns or less are more common than battles that you lose concentration in 2 turns.  So in general you are not going to lose anything and you have the opportunity for significantly more due to the longer duration.Assuming we are talking about the magic initiate feat with hex.  I think Hex is going to do more damage per day on average, what would really determine which feat is better is how you weigh the disadvantage from hex and the 2 warlock cantrips against what in play will usually be at-will elemental resistance as a reaction.</blockquote>

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