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What does a slayer fighter lose in the trade-off?
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<blockquote data-quote="ObsidianCrane" data-source="post: 5339851" data-attributes="member: 54918"><p>You know in reading this I realized my Dwarf fighter is actually pretty repetitive as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is his attack power list:</p><p>Fighter at-will 1: Reaping Strike</p><p>Fighter at-will 1: Wicked Strike </p><p>Fighter encounter 1: Steel Serpent Strike</p><p>Fighter daily 1: Driving Attack</p><p>Fighter encounter 3: Bull Charge</p><p>Fighter daily 5: Brutal Advance</p><p></p><p>His combats tend to go, Bull Charge, Steel Serpent Strike, Reaping Strike, repeat Reaping Strike until all enemies are dead. 2 of 3 fights he does a daily power (he is played in LFR). Wicked Strike is just there in case he gets an OA or something, maybe one day they will produce a Fighter at-will that isn't gimped that works in place of an MBA (unlikely now). </p><p></p><p>That really isn't that different from the Slayer in many regards, in fact a Slayer might change attack mode more often. What makes my Fighter more interesting than the Slayer is that as he levels he gets more things to do in a fight other than just damage (and he does ok damage already).</p><p></p><p>I did try re-building him as a Slayer, and it works, he does more damage, but he looses a lot of flavor in the process.</p><p></p><p>That said the "go to" race for Slayers seems to be the Half-Orc.</p><p>18 Str 18 Dex starting for +8 damage. Racial power that is functionally an extra use of Power Strike for free. </p><p></p><p>EG Level 2 Half-Orc Slayer</p><p>Str 18 Con 12 Dex 18 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 10</p><p>Feats: WE: Axes (gives a re-roll for 1's on damage afaik), Power Attack</p><p>Stances: Poised Assault, Berserker's Charge</p><p>Enc: Power Strike, Furious Assault</p><p>Utility: Who's Next</p><p>Magic Items: Braces of Mighty Striking, +1 Vicious Greataxe (if your DM doesn't give you one you will save up and buy it)</p><p></p><p>MBA: +10 vs AC Hit: 1d12+11</p><p></p><p>Berserker's Charge: +13 vs AC for 1d12+11 (PA: +11 for 1d12+14)</p><p>Poised Assault: +11 vs AC for 1d12+11 (PA: +9 for 1d12+14)</p><p></p><p>Who's Next lets you get up to +5 more damage.</p><p></p><p>Base Crit: 23+2d12 (PA 26+2d12)</p><p>Power Strike or Furious Assault Crit: 35+2d12 (PA 38+2d12)</p><p>Power Strike & Furious Assault Crit: 47+2d12 (PA 50+2d12)</p><p></p><p>Other magic items: Badge of the Berserker, Horned Helm, Boots of Adept Charging (if you have a defender to lock things done)</p><p></p><p>Just wait for that "first round crit" from the Half-Orc slayers...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ObsidianCrane, post: 5339851, member: 54918"] You know in reading this I realized my Dwarf fighter is actually pretty repetitive as well. This is his attack power list: Fighter at-will 1: Reaping Strike Fighter at-will 1: Wicked Strike Fighter encounter 1: Steel Serpent Strike Fighter daily 1: Driving Attack Fighter encounter 3: Bull Charge Fighter daily 5: Brutal Advance His combats tend to go, Bull Charge, Steel Serpent Strike, Reaping Strike, repeat Reaping Strike until all enemies are dead. 2 of 3 fights he does a daily power (he is played in LFR). Wicked Strike is just there in case he gets an OA or something, maybe one day they will produce a Fighter at-will that isn't gimped that works in place of an MBA (unlikely now). That really isn't that different from the Slayer in many regards, in fact a Slayer might change attack mode more often. What makes my Fighter more interesting than the Slayer is that as he levels he gets more things to do in a fight other than just damage (and he does ok damage already). I did try re-building him as a Slayer, and it works, he does more damage, but he looses a lot of flavor in the process. That said the "go to" race for Slayers seems to be the Half-Orc. 18 Str 18 Dex starting for +8 damage. Racial power that is functionally an extra use of Power Strike for free. EG Level 2 Half-Orc Slayer Str 18 Con 12 Dex 18 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 10 Feats: WE: Axes (gives a re-roll for 1's on damage afaik), Power Attack Stances: Poised Assault, Berserker's Charge Enc: Power Strike, Furious Assault Utility: Who's Next Magic Items: Braces of Mighty Striking, +1 Vicious Greataxe (if your DM doesn't give you one you will save up and buy it) MBA: +10 vs AC Hit: 1d12+11 Berserker's Charge: +13 vs AC for 1d12+11 (PA: +11 for 1d12+14) Poised Assault: +11 vs AC for 1d12+11 (PA: +9 for 1d12+14) Who's Next lets you get up to +5 more damage. Base Crit: 23+2d12 (PA 26+2d12) Power Strike or Furious Assault Crit: 35+2d12 (PA 38+2d12) Power Strike & Furious Assault Crit: 47+2d12 (PA 50+2d12) Other magic items: Badge of the Berserker, Horned Helm, Boots of Adept Charging (if you have a defender to lock things done) Just wait for that "first round crit" from the Half-Orc slayers... [/QUOTE]
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