D&D 5E (2024) What does the new DMG say about gods?

[pukunui]

I did a spit take on page 75.
....For game purposes, wielding divine power isn’t dependent on the gods’ ongoing approval or the strength of a character’s devotion. The power is a gift offered to a select few; once given, it can’t be rescinded.....
So WOTC just told all DMs player character can say fu to the god and still get their full spell list the next day.

Yeah, I didn't want to bring that up as it's what led to the DMG AMA thread getting locked. Probably best not to touch on this particular subject any further here.

 

[JEB]

There are entries for both Iggwilv and Tasha. The one for Tasha is literally just "See Iggwilv."

Honestly, I'm shocked that the new canon is making Iggwilv her default identity, rather than quietly erasing it in favor of 100% Tasha.

 

[Parmandur]

Honestly, I'm shocked that the new canon is making Iggwilv her default identity, rather than quietly erasing it in favor of 100% Tasha.

Nope, it's all in there: adopted by Baba Yaga,, Witch Queen of Perrenland, Demoninimicon, Graz'zt, Iuz, Drelzna, and Quests from the Infinite Staircase get detailed.

 

[JEB]

It also had alternate cosmologies.

Is this still in the 2024 DMG?

 

[SkidAce]

I did a spit take on page 75.
....For game purposes, wielding divine power isn’t dependent on the gods’ ongoing approval or the strength of a character’s devotion. The power is a gift offered to a select few; once given, it can’t be rescinded.....
So WOTC just told all DMs player character can say fu to the god and still get their full spell list the next day.

Say fu to a god and see how many lightning bolts you can handle. lol.

(not that I would do it of course...)

 

[Demetrios1453]

Nope, it's all in there: adopted by Baba Yaga,, Witch Queen of Perrenland, Demoninimicon, Graz'zt, Iuz, Drelzna, and Quests from the Infinite Staircase get detailed.

The only part not mentioned is the Wild Beyond the Witchlight stuff. I guess they omitted that so as not to spoil that particular adventure, although the Domain of Delight it takes place in is mentioned in the Feywild section.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Say fu to a god and see how many lightning bolts you can handle. lol.

(not that I would do it of course...)

As others have mentioned, probably best to not go into that discussion, as the last thread to do so when on for dozens of increasingly heated pages that eventually had to be shut down.

 

[Clint_L]

I mean, one of my best layers has a cleric who’s basically an atheist. It’s a fun concept. But then, gods in my campaign are just anything that gets worshipped, and divine power comes from personal belief. So I love that the rules are copacetic with that, even though I’d ignore them if they weren’t.

 

[pukunui]

Is this still in the 2024 DMG?

Yes, but not to the same extent. (It's also in the cosmology chapter, not in the section on gods - same as the 2014 DMG).

The 2014 DMG details the Great Wheel, the World Tree, the World Axis, and "Other Visions". The 2024 DMG details the Great Wheel and then has a bulleted list that includes the World Tree and World Axis (without naming them).

 

[cbwjm]

I mean, one of my best layers has a cleric who’s basically an atheist. It’s a fun concept. But then, gods in my campaign are just anything that gets worshipped, and divine power comes from personal belief. So I love that the rules are copacetic with that, even though I’d ignore them if they weren’t.

I think a lot of DMs are going to ignore the current suggestions around divine power as well.