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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 8059600">Reading this thread, I keep seeing several categories of suggestions that I think are off-base:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those that are really just wishes for it to be more like previous editions.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those that come from somebody's wish list for an RPG, but aren't really D&amp;D</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Those that are just 5e but with more options.</li>
</ol>I think an &quot;Advanced 5e&quot; needs to adhere to the spirit of D&amp;D 5e, but loosening up (somewhat) on the design goal of making it simple and accessible.Some examples (not all of which I'm necessarily advocating for)<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More complex initiative/turn order system</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More complex concentration rules</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More tactical combat options</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Some kind of accounting system that gates when short/long rests can happen</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">More uses for hit dice</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">A more mechanistic system for generating Inspiration, and maybe more uses for Inspiration</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Increasing the complexity of class/subclass features, without really changing their spirit.&nbsp; For example, making some features more powerful, but on a resource rather than at-will, or making them come with a trade-off.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">New character creation methods (e.g. attribute generation, or a system where you can take special bonuses in return for also taking flaws.)</li>
</ul>I think a litmus test for success would be if a given campaign could freely switch between regular and advanced rules using the same characters.Also, if [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] &amp; Co. are planning to release an &quot;Advanced 5e&quot; book, it's going to sell a bazillion copies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 8059600"] Reading this thread, I keep seeing several categories of suggestions that I think are off-base: [LIST=1] [*]Those that are really just wishes for it to be more like previous editions. [*]Those that come from somebody's wish list for an RPG, but aren't really D&D [*]Those that are just 5e but with more options. [/LIST] I think an "Advanced 5e" needs to adhere to the spirit of D&D 5e, but loosening up (somewhat) on the design goal of making it simple and accessible. Some examples (not all of which I'm necessarily advocating for) [LIST] [*]More complex initiative/turn order system [*]More complex concentration rules [*]More tactical combat options [*]Some kind of accounting system that gates when short/long rests can happen [*]More uses for hit dice [*]A more mechanistic system for generating Inspiration, and maybe more uses for Inspiration [*]Increasing the complexity of class/subclass features, without really changing their spirit. For example, making some features more powerful, but on a resource rather than at-will, or making them come with a trade-off. [*]New character creation methods (e.g. attribute generation, or a system where you can take special bonuses in return for also taking flaws.) [/LIST] I think a litmus test for success would be if a given campaign could freely switch between regular and advanced rules using the same characters. Also, if [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER] & Co. are planning to release an "Advanced 5e" book, it's going to sell a bazillion copies. [/QUOTE]

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