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<blockquote data-quote="Tales and Chronicles" data-source="post: 8060309" data-attributes="member: 6871653">Oh, its quite a personal wish I dont expect to be shared by the majority <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />But I'm not talking about having a ''spell-less everything!'' like in AiME, more like be sure to have a little more non magical archetypes for the mundane class. Naturally, spellcasting class will have spellcasting archetype, a spell-less wizard is just a commoner, after all <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />Its just that for now, with 13 classes, we have 3 classes that I would consider mundane: rogue, barbarian and fighter. Yet only 2 of the 6 published barbarian archetypes do not use magical effects, and the 2 currently in UA are also magical. Its mostly the same thing for the Fighter. So if I want to play a game where magic is considered rare or dangerous or feared or even gone, the available archetypes are really restrained. I know this is probably not the type of game most people play, but I strongly believe that this is a kind of playstyle that could be somewhat supported by an advanced D&amp;D, without going full magic less.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tales and Chronicles, post: 8060309, member: 6871653"] Oh, its quite a personal wish I dont expect to be shared by the majority :P But I'm not talking about having a ''spell-less everything!'' like in AiME, more like be sure to have a little more non magical archetypes for the mundane class. Naturally, spellcasting class will have spellcasting archetype, a spell-less wizard is just a commoner, after all :P Its just that for now, with 13 classes, we have 3 classes that I would consider mundane: rogue, barbarian and fighter. Yet only 2 of the 6 published barbarian archetypes do not use magical effects, and the 2 currently in UA are also magical. Its mostly the same thing for the Fighter. So if I want to play a game where magic is considered rare or dangerous or feared or even gone, the available archetypes are really restrained. I know this is probably not the type of game most people play, but I strongly believe that this is a kind of playstyle that could be somewhat supported by an advanced D&D, without going full magic less. [/QUOTE]

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