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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9552445" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>So there is a question of "how prevalent" we are talking about. Does a rich noble have 2 20th level wizards on tap? Or sure in a week or two they could get a lvl 9 spell cast. There is some factor in there. But otherwise lets go the board.</p><p></p><p>First the low hanging fruit. The elites would be invincible gods in such a world, immortal, invulnerable, capable of traveling the world in an instant. They could construct cities in days, would have palaces beyond imagining. War between normals and elites would be unthinkable such would be the elites capable, and war between elites would look like two super powers in modern times going to war. So just to set a general tone.</p><p></p><p>I'll go and cover a few of the high level powers and how they would change things up.</p><p></p><p>1) True Polymorph: Turn any object into a CR9 creature that remains friendly to you permanently. Perfect to amass an army of soldiers or servants. Now they aren't mindless slaves, but still you pay them and treat them well, no reason you couldn't amass quite an exotic staff, with the menagerie of capabilities of CR9 creatures. Sky's practically the limit on that one.</p><p></p><p>2) Wish: If we assume that such a society would only use "super wishes" as a true emergency, that the expectation would be only the standard uses....this actually is pretty tame in teh context of everything else that is possible.</p><p></p><p>3) Imprisonment: In a world where Resurrections and Reincarnations are simple costs on a business ledger....this is the spell the elite would truly fear. Being stuck in a place where their resources couldn't find them for thousands of years, unable to move or do anything....horrific. A lot of paranoia amongst the elite would be about this magic, its likely the "Voldemort" or society, people wouldn't even want to whisper its name just for the stigma.</p><p></p><p>4) Simulacrum: One of the very key questions here is your interpretation of the clause "The simulacrum lacks the ability to learn". If you literally just see this as the thing can't gain levels....than for all intensive purposes you can just replicate any person. Its practically the dnd version of what you often see in Sci Fi with cloning.....take the brightest researcher in the world and magnify them 1000 fold.</p><p></p><p>That said, depending on the availability of 7th versus 9th level spells it might be cheaper to work with tons of true polymorphed people (with the wide variety of stats that CR9 creatures could give you).</p><p></p><p>On the other, if you take a harsh intepretation, (such as the creature barely has even short term memory), than they would perhaps personal attendants but wouldn't serve well for longer missions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9552445, member: 5889"] So there is a question of "how prevalent" we are talking about. Does a rich noble have 2 20th level wizards on tap? Or sure in a week or two they could get a lvl 9 spell cast. There is some factor in there. But otherwise lets go the board. First the low hanging fruit. The elites would be invincible gods in such a world, immortal, invulnerable, capable of traveling the world in an instant. They could construct cities in days, would have palaces beyond imagining. War between normals and elites would be unthinkable such would be the elites capable, and war between elites would look like two super powers in modern times going to war. So just to set a general tone. I'll go and cover a few of the high level powers and how they would change things up. 1) True Polymorph: Turn any object into a CR9 creature that remains friendly to you permanently. Perfect to amass an army of soldiers or servants. Now they aren't mindless slaves, but still you pay them and treat them well, no reason you couldn't amass quite an exotic staff, with the menagerie of capabilities of CR9 creatures. Sky's practically the limit on that one. 2) Wish: If we assume that such a society would only use "super wishes" as a true emergency, that the expectation would be only the standard uses....this actually is pretty tame in teh context of everything else that is possible. 3) Imprisonment: In a world where Resurrections and Reincarnations are simple costs on a business ledger....this is the spell the elite would truly fear. Being stuck in a place where their resources couldn't find them for thousands of years, unable to move or do anything....horrific. A lot of paranoia amongst the elite would be about this magic, its likely the "Voldemort" or society, people wouldn't even want to whisper its name just for the stigma. 4) Simulacrum: One of the very key questions here is your interpretation of the clause "The simulacrum lacks the ability to learn". If you literally just see this as the thing can't gain levels....than for all intensive purposes you can just replicate any person. Its practically the dnd version of what you often see in Sci Fi with cloning.....take the brightest researcher in the world and magnify them 1000 fold. That said, depending on the availability of 7th versus 9th level spells it might be cheaper to work with tons of true polymorphed people (with the wide variety of stats that CR9 creatures could give you). On the other, if you take a harsh intepretation, (such as the creature barely has even short term memory), than they would perhaps personal attendants but wouldn't serve well for longer missions. [/QUOTE]
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