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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9560700" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>For 'wizard school' to be the equivalent of going for your PhD... that only makes sense if there was also Master's, Bachelor's, high school, and primary schooling available for citizens, in order to discover which people were able to go on for their doctorates. But I don't see any medieval fantasy settings except for Eberron have anything even close to resembling the leveled schooling necessary to "find" the students able to go on to Wizard School if Wizard School was really as tough as you suggest.</p><p></p><p>How would anyone even know that they could become wizards if it was the equivalent of a PhD program? Just random guessing? "You know... I'm just a local farmer and I've never actually been to school before... but I just KNOW I have the aptitude to learn how to be a Wizard! Let me cut straight to the PhD program and get started! Where's the local wizard and let him take a look at me!"</p><p></p><p>No. If learning 1st level arcane magic was really that difficult-- that only the select few could even start to do it-- society would have designed and put into place a whole system of schooling (just like we in the real world have) in order to <em>find and prove</em> which students actually <em>could</em> become wizards. The world would have learned long ago the need to separate the wheat from the metric tons of chaff and how best to do it.</p><p></p><p>Look... if some people really want to believe that a world that has the "tech level" of 7th, 8th and 9th level magic would actually remain stuck in a faux-medieval world for tens of thousands of years... go nuts. They aren't even advancing and progressing from Ancient Greece tech levels -to- Medieval tech levels over those millennia... but a place like Faerun remaining stuck JUST in medieval tech that entire time. To me that is patently ridiculous and I have no problem pointing that out. Yeah, it makes for really lovely 'knights and fairies' entertainment and stories... but absolutely wretched anthropology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9560700, member: 7006"] For 'wizard school' to be the equivalent of going for your PhD... that only makes sense if there was also Master's, Bachelor's, high school, and primary schooling available for citizens, in order to discover which people were able to go on for their doctorates. But I don't see any medieval fantasy settings except for Eberron have anything even close to resembling the leveled schooling necessary to "find" the students able to go on to Wizard School if Wizard School was really as tough as you suggest. How would anyone even know that they could become wizards if it was the equivalent of a PhD program? Just random guessing? "You know... I'm just a local farmer and I've never actually been to school before... but I just KNOW I have the aptitude to learn how to be a Wizard! Let me cut straight to the PhD program and get started! Where's the local wizard and let him take a look at me!" No. If learning 1st level arcane magic was really that difficult-- that only the select few could even start to do it-- society would have designed and put into place a whole system of schooling (just like we in the real world have) in order to [I]find and prove[/I] which students actually [I]could[/I] become wizards. The world would have learned long ago the need to separate the wheat from the metric tons of chaff and how best to do it. Look... if some people really want to believe that a world that has the "tech level" of 7th, 8th and 9th level magic would actually remain stuck in a faux-medieval world for tens of thousands of years... go nuts. They aren't even advancing and progressing from Ancient Greece tech levels -to- Medieval tech levels over those millennia... but a place like Faerun remaining stuck JUST in medieval tech that entire time. To me that is patently ridiculous and I have no problem pointing that out. Yeah, it makes for really lovely 'knights and fairies' entertainment and stories... but absolutely wretched anthropology. [/QUOTE]
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