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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9262780" data-attributes="member: 6716779">You forgot to add an imho on that. We're experienced players. Most casuals just want to have fun and use "bad" spells because they don't know any better. Most players are casuals. I figured this out in 2002 when I discovered I sad the only one locally paying attention to internet discussions.  We are an extreme minority here. It's also why 3E wasn't broken in most games because most people don't play like internet hyperbole claims. They didnt know how to break it or didn't have the required material. Fireball hasn't been good (its B tier more average) since 2E I suspect it gets used more tgan every other spell at that tier. It's fun. Hypnotic pattern not so much.</blockquote>