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What, if anything, bothers you about certain casters/spells at your table?
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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 9263019" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Counterspell shouldn't be a big issue if you play by the rules. It's quite limited unless the DM is house ruling you know the spell, and it's pretty trivial to get around even in those cases.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">RAW you don't know the spell you are counterspelling until it is already cast and then it's too late. So you are guessing that this is an important spell, and guessing at the level you want to counterspell. People messing it up is the #1 reason they think it's OP. Xanathar's has a way to know the spell - but it takes your reaction.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Be more than 60 feet away - it has a range 60'.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Don't be seen casting.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Subtle metamagic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aberrant Mind sorcerer psionically casting.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Be invisible - casting time of counterspell specifically says "1 rection, which you take when you see a creature...".</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can literally duck behind total cover, Ready the spell <em>which casts it</em> to go off when you see your opponent, then move back. Yes, this does use up your reaction and your Concentration.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can Counterspell their counterspell, or if they are rolling to counterspell you can use Silvery Barbs on the roll to force a reroll.<br /> </li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 9263019, member: 20564"] Counterspell shouldn't be a big issue if you play by the rules. It's quite limited unless the DM is house ruling you know the spell, and it's pretty trivial to get around even in those cases. [LIST] [*]RAW you don't know the spell you are counterspelling until it is already cast and then it's too late. So you are guessing that this is an important spell, and guessing at the level you want to counterspell. People messing it up is the #1 reason they think it's OP. Xanathar's has a way to know the spell - but it takes your reaction. [*]Be more than 60 feet away - it has a range 60'. [*]Don't be seen casting. [LIST] [*]Subtle metamagic [*]Aberrant Mind sorcerer psionically casting. [*]Be invisible - casting time of counterspell specifically says "1 rection, which you take when you see a creature...". [*]You can literally duck behind total cover, Ready the spell [I]which casts it[/I] to go off when you see your opponent, then move back. Yes, this does use up your reaction and your Concentration. [/LIST] [*]You can Counterspell their counterspell, or if they are rolling to counterspell you can use Silvery Barbs on the roll to force a reroll. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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