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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9266376" data-attributes="member: 7037866">The designers. I already stated that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yes. Look at ALL the sites, tweets, etc. online about people asking for clarifications, arguing about design, or lack of design.If the game is &quot;tight&quot;, and people don't like the rules, they can change it, but at least they have a basis for comparison. When left &quot;up to the DM&quot; willie-nillie, it makes it much harder for players and DMs alike IME, especially newer ones.They get paid for it. So, it would be nice if they completed the job.Not at all. Sometimes players are lazy, too. And DMs can be lazy, but creating complete, fun, compelling game design is not their job.And to be clear, the deisgners aren't &quot;lazy&quot;, the design paradigm they are using is. This is why I call it &quot;lazy&quot; design.Basically, this the problem which led to the &quot;incompleteness&quot; of 5E:This is fairly unnecessary as this has pretty much always been true about the DM. Sure, some to greater effect than others, but it's been there.&quot;We expect the DM to do that.&quot; Really? LLLAAAA-ZZZZYYYYY!!!!So, instead of giving me a complete game system, with concrete rules and systems, where players and DMs alike aren't left scratching their heads, they want people to pay them good money for lazy design.Sure, of course we all know not everything about a game can cover every eventuality, but the issue is where they have a rule or feature or whatever, and its unclear just how it is supposed to work. We end up with thousands and thousands of threads, posts, tweets, etc. asking for help or guidance because the designers decided they want the DMs to do it.And it isn't even like many of JC's tweet responses are even helpful. &quot;I have a question about XYZ, did you intent this or that?&quot; Response: &quot;the text is clear.&quot; Gee, really...? thanks for nothing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9266376, member: 7037866"] The designers. I already stated that. ;) Yes. Look at [I]ALL[/I] the sites, tweets, etc. online about people asking for clarifications, arguing about design, or lack of design. If the game is "tight", and people don't like the rules, they can change it, but at least they have a basis for comparison. When left "up to the DM" willie-nillie, it makes it much harder for players and DMs alike IME, especially newer ones. They get paid for it. So, it would be nice if they completed the job. Not at all. Sometimes players are lazy, too. And DMs can be lazy, but creating complete, fun, compelling game design is [I]not their job[/I]. And to be clear, the deisgners aren't "lazy", the design paradigm they are using is. This is why I call it "lazy" design. Basically, this the problem which led to the "incompleteness" of 5E: This is fairly unnecessary as this has pretty much always been true about the DM. Sure, some to greater effect than others, but it's been there. "[I]We expect the DM to do that.[/I]" Really? LLLAAAA-ZZZZYYYYY!!!! So, instead of giving me a complete game system, with concrete rules and systems, where players and DMs alike aren't left scratching their heads, they want people to pay them good money for lazy design. Sure, of course we all know not everything about a game can cover every eventuality, but the issue is where they [I]have[/I] a rule or feature or whatever, and its unclear just how it is supposed to work. We end up with thousands and thousands of threads, posts, tweets, etc. asking for help or guidance because the designers decided they want the DMs to do it. And it isn't even like many of JC's tweet responses are even helpful. "I have a question about XYZ, did you intent this or that?" Response: "the text is clear." Gee, really...? thanks for nothing. [/QUOTE]

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