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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9266411" data-attributes="member: 7037866">It's what the groups play, albeit now heavily house-ruled BECAUSE one DM decided he was willing to do their job for them.However, I do know some players have found 5E frustrating enough to stop playing. The lack of clarity in many places has turned them off of the game, to the point they don't play D&D anymore at all, and some have moved on to other games.But, I played 3E, found that over-burdened with rules. I realize finding a happy medium is hard, and I've heard 4E was even worse! So, now the design concept went too far the other way. Unfortunately, with 5.5 or whatever coming out, I don't see them shifting gears yet. Either way, I hope there will be better clarity in the books at the very least. Natural language is all good, but there are times when more "technical" approaches are clearer.</blockquote>