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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 6851551" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Actually, once you learn it, it's NOT harder then addition. It doesn't take longer. I have NO idea who created this fantasy, but probably NOT someone who is a mathematician, or uses math regularly in their field of employment.</p><p></p><p>Trig can be harder (though if you learn certain tricks, some parts of it are actually easier than addition and subtraction even), but the fallacy that addition is easier than subtraction is pretty ridiculous (UNLESS you are a first grader or kindergartener, in which case...since you haven't learned or are still learning addition and subtraction, it is pretty easy to believe).</p><p></p><p>In some instances, subtraction can be easier than addition, and in some addition can be easier. For example, which will take you longer, subtracting (3/4 - 2/4 = 1/4), OR (3/5 + 2/3 = ????). [19/15 = 1 4/15].</p><p></p><p>It's all a matter of perspective and what it is used for. It depends on what the problem or question is in regards to that addition or subtraction.</p><p></p><p>However, the point I was making, was that for MY playstyle which I prefer...I enjoy the class differentiations that THACO utilized (differences of THACO advancement between the classes) rather than the same attack advancement pattern for all classes (which is how 5e does it).</p><p></p><p>IF 5e did something in that same light, I wouldn't necessarily say THACO was superior (addition or subtraction aside). It was how THACO was utilized ingame in regards to actually doing something (rather than being another unnecessary number...as all classes advance the same with the proficiency bonus in 5e...is there REALLY a reason to even have it?) that differentiates between different classifications of characters...hence adding to the game rather than just being a number that sits there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 6851551, member: 4348"] Actually, once you learn it, it's NOT harder then addition. It doesn't take longer. I have NO idea who created this fantasy, but probably NOT someone who is a mathematician, or uses math regularly in their field of employment. Trig can be harder (though if you learn certain tricks, some parts of it are actually easier than addition and subtraction even), but the fallacy that addition is easier than subtraction is pretty ridiculous (UNLESS you are a first grader or kindergartener, in which case...since you haven't learned or are still learning addition and subtraction, it is pretty easy to believe). In some instances, subtraction can be easier than addition, and in some addition can be easier. For example, which will take you longer, subtracting (3/4 - 2/4 = 1/4), OR (3/5 + 2/3 = ????). [19/15 = 1 4/15]. It's all a matter of perspective and what it is used for. It depends on what the problem or question is in regards to that addition or subtraction. However, the point I was making, was that for MY playstyle which I prefer...I enjoy the class differentiations that THACO utilized (differences of THACO advancement between the classes) rather than the same attack advancement pattern for all classes (which is how 5e does it). IF 5e did something in that same light, I wouldn't necessarily say THACO was superior (addition or subtraction aside). It was how THACO was utilized ingame in regards to actually doing something (rather than being another unnecessary number...as all classes advance the same with the proficiency bonus in 5e...is there REALLY a reason to even have it?) that differentiates between different classifications of characters...hence adding to the game rather than just being a number that sits there. [/QUOTE]
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