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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6851729" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!Yeah, I should have specified but I &quot;pick on&quot; 3.x/PF/4e all the time and am trying to cut back. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I wouldn't say &quot;only&quot; players nutured on 3e...I have encountered 1e/2e players that have come from so-called &quot;munchkin campaigns&quot; where they were given stupid powerful stuff (class abilities, magic items, spells, etc) so that they have rediculous power-build type PC's. The thing with 1e/2e is that when a player shows up and starts to regale the table with tales of his Cambion Paladin/Magic-User/Assassin, 34th/30th/20th with a holy avenger Sword of Kas, the Coat of Arnd, and that his Huge Ancient gold dragon special mount can transform itself once per day into Bahaumet...well, it was blatantly obvious that he and his DM were &quot;cheating&quot; (e.g., not in any way shape or form trying to play by the guidelines of 'generally accepted AD&amp;D rules'). With 3.x/PF/4e...the player can back up every one of those claims with some feat, racial choice, spell book, or &quot;special power&quot; from any number of a million books or PDF's put out for his/her chosen system.Thankfully, 1e/2e doesn't have that level of &quot;power building capability&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pming, post: 6851729, member: 45197"] Hiya! Yeah, I should have specified but I "pick on" 3.x/PF/4e all the time and am trying to cut back. ;) I wouldn't say "only" players nutured on 3e...I have encountered 1e/2e players that have come from so-called "munchkin campaigns" where they were given stupid powerful stuff (class abilities, magic items, spells, etc) so that they have rediculous power-build type PC's. The thing with 1e/2e is that when a player shows up and starts to regale the table with tales of his Cambion Paladin/Magic-User/Assassin, 34th/30th/20th with a holy avenger Sword of Kas, the Coat of Arnd, and that his Huge Ancient gold dragon special mount can transform itself once per day into Bahaumet...well, it was [I]blatantly obvious[/I] that he and his DM were "cheating" (e.g., not in any way shape or form trying to play by the guidelines of 'generally accepted AD&D rules'). With 3.x/PF/4e...the player can back up every one of those claims with some feat, racial choice, spell book, or "special power" from any number of a million books or PDF's put out for his/her chosen system. Thankfully, 1e/2e doesn't have that level of "power building capability". :) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]

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