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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6852323" data-attributes="member: 6775031">I'd almost forgotten about it, but yes, this is definitely a huge difference between core 2E and everything that came after it. This is when you started getting players who didn't care when their characters died, because it was an opportunity to go through (advanced) character gen again!You can almost excise the character optimization mini-game, if you play 5E without feats, but in order to really grab the old-style feel you should also get rid of about a third of the sub-classes and heavily restrict class/race combinations.</blockquote>